Coronavirus outbreak

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ozboz

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Yep , I wonder if they had a flake and raspberry toppings on their ‘corono-cones !
 

Smudge

Veteran
Location
Somerset
The report came from one of my son’s consultants. He was mugged yesterday. The man in question wanted to warn colleagues. He did not want to spend time talking to the media. In this case, it is from a reliable source. Although it’s up to you whether you count me as a reliable source.

You said a number of doctors in London have been mugged at knifepoint and had their NHS badges stolen.
Not 'a doctor'
 

vickster

Legendary Member
I have just been to Aldi. Very orderly. Everyone being polite. Plenty of veg, bread and even bog rolls. Sadly no alcohol though........no whisky, vodka or brandy etc:sad:BOJO never said it would get that bad.
support your corner shop by buying there and you'll have contact with fewer people :okay:
 

Rocky

Hello decadence
You said a number of doctors in London have been mugged at knifepoint and had their NHS badges stolen.
Not 'a doctor'
That’s true, that was one case that I had a personal contact with, as he was my son’s boss, there are others too which I believe ....but hey ho ignore what I’ve said. It matters little to me - you and I are just men on the internet.
 

Mugshot

Cracking a solo.
Speaking of food, is anyone thinking about going for a last McDonalds?

I was, but irritatingly I just don't feel hungry - I can normally wolf down a breakfast muffin burger without a second thought.

Mention of McDonalds on here usually leads to some knee jerk abuse of the company and the quality of their food.

But they've always taken a nicely laid back attitude when I've wanted to use their premises as an office - never any pressure to buy stuff.

On a more serious note, the drive through has been something of a life saver for me a few times during my illness.

It's a good option when you lack the energy to buy ingredients and cook them, and even lack the energy to walk into a normal takeaway.

I don't kid myself the stuff is in any way healthier than any other takeaway, but another benefit is I reckon it is at least hygienically prepared.

I've seen a few takeaways prosecuted under food hygiene regs, but never a McDonalds.
On another serious note, I suspect that McDonalds has an awful lot of staff that are on zero or very low contracted hours.
 

marinyork

Resting in suspended Animation
Location
Logopolis
Or instead of hiding the panic, PPE/ventilator/ICU shortages and fire-fighting going on right now in London hospitals, they are broadcast for all to see. Nurses in Northwick Park, the hospital that went critical two days ago, are wearing bin bags to protect themselves.

The chart below is enough to send a chill down my spine. This is ft's update of their fatalities chart, but previously no markers were placed where and when nationwide lockdowns were implemented, now they are with a star. See when China applied their draconian measures and how long it took their number to tail off? Then consider our measures - we have a looong way to go.

Think someone once said Boris is incapable of telling people what they don't want to hear - that he will always put a gloss on every turd he owns, and which he can't resist to sell. That is definitely not what we need right now.


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This is quite a late one but there's a reason for the late reply.

Sky news has been using this chart from time to time the last 24 hours. Myself personally I'm not particularly a visual communicator I know that Italy has implemented three lock downs and another three substantial restrictions and when they happened. If it helps others then why not.

On a technical point there are a couple of reasons why the government may not particularly like using it. The DCMO got drawn a little bit too much, in an answer to a question, to talking about the case rates, the death rates in Italy and here someone partially quoted what they said. I'm not quite sure why the PHE/government view focuses on this a bit too much. It may be that the government side is worried about criticism (although there's a flippant answer to that and that if they are worried about how the death rates appears to the media, if we get our testing regime frigging sorted it'll look better). Another technical point the DCMO alluded to that hasn't been picked up, it is generally reckoned that in bits of Italy particularly 5 or 6 provinces people are dying at home and so not part of the hospital numbers and not part of the death count (in the UK this isn't happening). Sadly, this is very plausible. One of the interesting bits in different bits of Italy is people have said they hear 'fewer ambulances in these days'. That could mean the virus is under control, or it could just mean that they aren't taking people to hospital.

In terms of communicating to the public, I feel that Boris does a particularly poor job on this one. The best team to communicate it at press conferences is probably DCMO Jenny Harries. You could also draft in Queenie at some point.

In terms of what's in the content as on this forum a lot of people in government are in highly professional jobs, are in the position of being privileged, very powerful, having their opinions listened to and so go off on one and think the public are morons. This tends to lead to being quite vague as is seen in some press conferences - not knocking having an epidemic curve in an early press conference it was good, but it was the verbal said that was good and not the graphics! The public understand what an exponential curve is, contrary to what particularly 5 or 6 people on this forum think. The alternative theory is that people think keep it simple (which has also been discussed on this thread). Content needs to focus on the specifics of social distancing. As said just yelling social distancing to everything doesn't work. It's one that many countries have grappled with as they've imposed numeric bans on groups of 50 or in Germany yesterday more than 2. A 5 minute video that is repeated throughout the day with medics, queenie, DCMO, videos and graphics and clearer advice is what's needed. Press conferences although useful just appeal to the vanity of politicians and journalists.

Lastly the person who goes most 'off message' from a politician's point of view, but not a scientific or reasonable one is DCMO Jenny Harries. The mental health side is clearly important to the medics and scientists. This isn't coming across to a society or media that's only really starting to talk about it. It's because it's something at societal level we're very bad at.
 

DCLane

Found in the Yorkshire hills ...
https://www.asthma.org.uk/advice/triggers/coronavirus-covid-19/
For all the asthmatics on here. Advice updated yesterday. Turns out I am in the very high risk group despite being ridiculously fit and healthy.

The same :ohmy:
 

Pale Rider

Legendary Member
On another serious note, I suspect that McDonalds has an awful lot of staff that are on zero or very low contracted hours.

Apparently, because those zero hours contracts go through McDonalds' PAYE books, the staff will qualify for Rishi's 80 percent salary payment.

Further, McDonalds is paying the zero contract staff full average pay until early next month to give the paperwork time to catch up.

I've mentioned this before, but I've made 'friends' with some of the table clearing ladies while I've been taking up space in the dining area.

A couple of them told me McDonalds is a good company to work for, certainly compared to the factory assembly jobs they used to do.

I wasn't too surprised about that, some of those places were little more than workhouses.
 

Mugshot

Cracking a solo.
Apparently, because those zero hours contracts go through McDonalds' PAYE books, the staff will qualify for Rishi's 80 percent salary payment.

Further, McDonalds is paying the zero contract staff full average pay until early next month to give the paperwork time to catch up.

I've mentioned this before, but I've made 'friends' with some of the table clearing ladies while I've been taking up space in the dining area.

A couple of them told me McDonalds is a good company to work for, certainly compared to the factory assembly jobs they used to do.

I wasn't too surprised about that, some of those places were little more than workhouses.
I've not said they were a bad employer.
80% of salary will be based on average earnings? Do you know over what period?
 

Adam4868

Legendary Member
On another serious note, I suspect that McDonalds has an awful lot of staff that are on zero or very low contracted hours.
Why give notice,should have just shut immediately.Imagine how many people will go there today before the shut down.
 
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