Coronavirus outbreak

[PeteXXX]

It must be contagious on CC. We now have yet another Coronavirus related thread...

 

[postman]

This virus thingy is it like the one i accidentally got on my computer while Mrs P was away for two weeks,that nice man in Thailand got rid of it for me for 500 bit coins,whatever they are.Any virus is not as bad as Mrs P when she loses her temper.

 

[Rocky]

Complete joke for the vast majority of the population. Where was the news scare-mongering as the hundreds of people die each winter from seasonal flu in the UK? Where was the self-quarantining then?! The elderly & those with pre-existing conditions should receive additional attention and advice (given the flu jabs they are eligible to receive each winter don't cover this strain). But for 90%+ of the population, this mass hysteria is ridiculous.

I hope you are right but I fear you aren’t. So far nearly 3,000 in China have died. It is spreading. The thing about the virus is that it spreads quickly and is very infectious (far more than SARS). It kills about 2% of people who have caught it. It would be negligent of governments to ignore it.

Shall we have this conversation again in a couple of months? If I’m wrong about its dangers, I’ll happily apologise.

 

[Drago]

Worse case scenario if it hit properly on our shores is between 800,000 and 1.05 million dead at the infection and mortality rates seen so far.

 

[vickster]

This virus thingy is it like the one i accidentally got on my computer while Mrs P was away for two weeks,that nice man in Thailand got rid of it for me for 500 bit coins,whatever they are.Any virus is not as bad as Mrs P when she loses her temper.

That'll teach you to look at porn while the wife is away

 

[Rocky]

That'll teach you to look at porn while the wife is away

I think he was trying to buy a postbox on eBay

https://www.cyclechat.net/threads/e-bay-seller.257936/

 

[vickster]

I think he was trying to buy a postbox on eBay

https://www.cyclechat.net/threads/e-bay-seller.257936/

Which is a far more bizarre thing to be looking at frankly

 

[MichaelO]

I hope you are right but I fear you aren’t. So far nearly 3,000 in China have died. It is spreading. The thing about the virus is that it spreads quickly and is very infectious (far more than SARS). It kills about 2% of people who have caught it. It would be negligent of governments to ignore it.

Shall we have this conversation again in a couple of months? If I’m wrong about its dangers, I’ll happily apologise.

600,000-700,000 die from flu each and every year, and yet it doesn’t even make it to a footnote in the news. You are correct - corona is more deadly than regular flu (based on data to date - 2% mortality is multiple times higher than normal), but only in the elderly and those with pre-existing conditions.

But your final point is pertinent - let’s see where we actually get to with this - I hope we look back at this as a huge over reaction (in the same way the 2003 SARS was)

 

[tom73]

Public health England advice

employers and businesses
https://www.gov.uk/government/publi...ance-for-employers-and-businesses-on-covid-19

None Clinical settings and general advice
https://www.gov.uk/government/collections/covid-19-guidance-for-non-clinical-settings-and-the-public

 

[Rocky]

600,000-700,000 die from flu each and every year, and yet it doesn’t even make it to a footnote in the news. You are correct - corona is more deadly than regular flu (based on data to date - 2% mortality is multiple times higher than normal), but only in the elderly and those with pre-existing conditions.

But your final point is pertinent - let’s see where we actually get to with this - I hope we look back at this as a huge over reaction (in the same way the 2003 SARS was)

I think your figures overstate the deaths from flu - I’d be interested to know where they came from. Wikipedia suggests it’s between 250-500k.

I suppose there are two responses to Coronavirus. We could ignore it on the grounds it’s not killed nearly as many as flu. Or we could listen to the communicable disease epidemiologists who think this is the start of a pandemic. On balance, I prefer the latter. The former approach is a bit of a high risk strategy if we get it wrong.

 

[numbnuts]

So me being 69 in October with no dependents would it be wise to blow my life saving now

 

[HMS_Dave]

Coronavirus? It's making the media millions....

 

[DCLane]

I work in a university, SWMBO works in a patient-facing role in a hospital, son no. 1 is at university and son no. 2 is at school.

The decision we've reached is that it'll hit us as some point * and, given three of us have asthma and one recovering from glandular fever, it'll be challenging. Oh, and we're likely to have to 'self-isolate' either way.

Lots of rice / pasta / baked beans / soup being bought this week.

* Having been one of the few to actually catch swine flu it near killed me. So @numbnuts I'd get spending - and not on a bike; something short-term and enjoyable.

 

[nickyboy]

600,000-700,000 die from flu each and every year, and yet it doesn’t even make it to a footnote in the news. You are correct - corona is more deadly than regular flu (based on data to date - 2% mortality is multiple times higher than normal), but only in the elderly and those with pre-existing conditions.

But your final point is pertinent - let’s see where we actually get to with this - I hope we look back at this as a huge over reaction (in the same way the 2003 SARS was)

It's more deadly (mainly because we don't have a vaccine and won't have for several months)
It's more contagious (its R0 is higher than flu)
It is communicable for up to 10 days before symptoms show

This idea that we should just let it run its course and do nothing is ridiculous in the extreme. Do that and millions will die that won't die if we take action

The best thing everyone can do is wash your hands...a lot. There is masses of evidence to show that this slows the spread more effectively than anything else

We have one vulnerable member of the family so we have N95 masks (good luck buying those now), loads of hand sanitiser. Will probably start increasing the buying of food staples because, as can be seen in Lombardy, when cases start to occur, panic buying starts

 

[MontyVeda]

Hand sanitizer is out of stock already with many suppliers..
Hopefully stocks in house will last, we have enough I think..

Try buying at the shops, local Tesco is sold out..as are other high street shops

Soap and water is as good as any old fancy hand sanitiser... wash your hands thoroughly, wringing and getting between all the fingers, whilst humming happy birthday, twice (in other words, for about 30-40 seconds)