Coronavirus outbreak

[kingrollo]

Let it run its course, treat the most vulnerable, its affecting people with certain health issues, so most people will have it and be fine.

But if you let it run its course there will be more 'most vulnerable' to treat - and we probably don't have the resources to cope with that.

The question is do we take drastic measures school/factory shutdowns - to have perhaps only a minor impact of the virus - if the drastic measures reduce the spread and death rate by say below 10%* is it worth doing ?

*Yes I have pulled the 10% figure out of the sky.

 

[Drago]

Anything wrong with this thread https://www.cyclechat.net/threads/coronavirus-outbreak.256913

Yes, it's contagious!

 

[Archie_tect]

+ always using a handkerchief to cough or sneeze into, regardless of whether you have anything infectious inside you.

 

[Dave7]

What are you thinking of as a measured response?

I would have thought the answer to that was obvious.
We carefully analyse statistics....... THEN PANICK

 

[fossyant]

I've just spoken about my concerns about this to HR at work. We have many people who travel in and out of Europe and they all work in a confined space within the factory. It only takes one to come in the factory with this it, and it could spread like wildfire. Obviously there's not much that can be done, but what concerns me is that some people may not be able to afford to take 2 weeks off self isolating themselves and may become selfish and turn up for work.
I've asked if they could offer the option (for the staff) to take the 2 weeks off as a holiday if they wanted. Hopefully it would help just incase a member of staff tries to continue working selfishly through financial pressures

This is a real issue for those that only get statutory sick, even worse for them if they only have 4 weeks, like many small employers.

As some of the local schools have 'closed' these are schools where we send our student Teacher placements, so we're having to issue guidance now. We've also had a group of Post Grads and a lecturer return from Italy, that have been told to 'self isolate'. I suppose we are lucky in that the Lecturer will be able to take the time off as 'sick' on full pay, but they will need a sick note issuing even though there are unlikely to be ill.

Hmm what would you be doing if sent 'off' to self isolate. I think I'd have to get out on my bike in the middle of no-where as usual.

 

[Levo-Lon]

When you say run it's course do you mean allow it to kill as many as it's going to, a natural cull?
BTW, I'm not trying to pick at you here Levo.

Well that is what I'm saying I guess.
But as stated " We " in the medically sufficient societies should be able to cope better.
Sadly we will have deaths but from a contain it point of view its farcical..

As posted above ,work ..self isolated staff for 2 weeks.. then come back to work to find another staff member is positive?
Where does it end?

Lots will die as a result of this virus so it's a case of be prepared and expect hospitals to be stretched.

Another example, my work ,care...
What happens if we have a positive result.
Are we quarantined at work to keep the home going or do we all go home?
Who will care for the needy?

Myself and my wife have auto immune conditions so I'm not crazy about getting this but I will take my chance, and as for not working and earning....that worries us as a couple far far more..

 

[vickster]

+ always using a handkerchief to cough or sneeze into, regardless of whether you have anything infectious inside you.

And wash your hands or apply gel afterwards

 

[Mugshot]

Well that is what I'm saying I guess.
But as stated " We " in the medically sufficient societies should be able to cope better.
Sadly we will have deaths but from a contain it point of view its farcical..

As posted above ,work ..self isolated staff for 2 weeks.. then come back to work to find another staff member is positive?
Where does it end?

Lots will die as a result of this virus so it's a case of be prepared and expect hospitals to be stretched.

Another example, my work ,care...
What happens if we have a positive result.
Are we quarantined at work to keep the home going or do we all go home?
Who will care for the needy?

Myself and my wife have auto immune conditions so I'm not crazy about getting this but I will take my chance, and as for not working and earning....that worries us as a couple far far more..

Unfortunately letting it run it's course will likely be far more devastating to the poor and the vulnerable.
The directive down here is that all visitors now have to use hand sanitiser when they arrive and if there is a case in the county the home will be shut to all but staff.

 

[fossyant]

Well that is what I'm saying I guess.
But as stated " We " in the medically sufficient societies should be able to cope better.
Sadly we will have deaths but from a contain it point of view its farcical..

As posted above ,work ..self isolated staff for 2 weeks.. then come back to work to find another staff member is positive?
Where does it end?

Lots will die as a result of this virus so it's a case of be prepared and expect hospitals to be stretched.

Another example, my work ,care...
What happens if we have a positive result.
Are we quarantined at work to keep the home going or do we all go home?
Who will care for the needy?

Myself and my wife have auto immune conditions so I'm not crazy about getting this but I will take my chance, and as for not working and earning....that worries us as a couple far far more..

You'll probably end up with a fair few 'vacancies' at the care home. This is one thing that would see off MIL (nursing home and heart failure and other stuff), but what happens if someone does catch it - you've still got to be there to look after them and everyone else. Like flu, it will spread.

 

[fossyant]

There is loads of evidence that if everyone does this it really puts the brakes on the spread of the virus

Given what I see in my 'building' we are doomed. Students and staff not washing hands, and making a mess of the toilets, even no washing after a 'sit'. Doomed I tell yee. Both male and female just as bad, although the female staff do say it's really bad in their shared loos.

 

[Drago]

Anything wrong with this thread https://www.cyclechat.net/threads/coronavirus-outbreak.256913

In all seriousness, the stated aims of this thread are very different to that one.

 

[Accy cyclist]

I won't be panicking, but i'll be keeping out of the sauna and steam rooms at my local leisure centre. There's always someone in when i'm in,telling of their holidays abroad. Maybe they could be carriers. I was also thinking about getting 'tanned up' by using a local sun bed salon,but i think it's wise to avoid hot and sweaty/steamy places.

Will we reach the 'bring out your dead' stage,like in medieval plague times,i don't think so,but we could have quite a few deaths here.

 

[Drago]

Hey, Accy, with a bit of luck Dirty Gertie from flat number 30 might succumb.

 

[Accy cyclist]

Hey, Accy, with a bit of luck Dirty Gertie from flat number 30 might succumb.

Yes,i'm hoping so!

 

[fossyant]

Hmm, might be a new way to work (bike) from home

https://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-c...-home-as-coronavirus-precaution-idUKKBN20J2PZ

So anyone with flu like symptoms, send everyone home. I feel a sniffle coming on.