Coronavirus outbreak

[BoldonLad]

Yeah I'm sure JRM has considered the effect on his hedge fund

Maybe all of you, who do not have a public sector pension, should be doing likewise?

 

[Rocky]

Hopefully - if we could delay it - we would have more ITU beds - and some of the experimental drugs being used would be further developed.

Also we don't know how long any immunity lasts - so those who get infected now - may not have immunity come December.

That’s true about the immunity. There have been several cases where it appears a person has been reinfected after having been given the all clear.

What it shows me is that there is no right answer or solution to this. The UK might be right and Italy wrong or vice versa or we might both be wrong or we could both be right. Scientific life is about uncertainty.

 

[BoldonLad]

That’s true about the immunity. There has been several cases where it appears a person has been reinfected after having been given the all clear.

What it shows me is that there is no right answer or solution to this. The UK might be right and Italy wrong or vice versa or we might both be wrong or we could both be right. Scientific life is about uncertainty.

To summarise: nobody knows

 

[Rusty Nails]

That's all true of course.
But we seem to have a different approach to most European countries - and WHO disagree with the UK approach.

And none of them know yet how effective their approach will be either. Is there a standard approach in European countries, or is it just that there are differences in timing? This is new territory and there is no tried and tested plan to work to so every country is adopting their own.

China, politically and socially is different to European countries. Hong Kong is a small, heavily populated state that also does not compare with much in Europe, or the rest of the world.

I admit to not knowing enough to argue with anyone about which is the best approach in the long run. I also admit to having some misgivings about our timing strategy re restrictions, and the testing policy, which does not let us know how many are affected, while hopefully understanding what our scientists think will happen as a result of it.

 

[Rocky]

To summarise: nobody knows

I think that’s a fair summary

 

[Pale Rider]

Hopefully - if we could delay it - we would have more ITU beds - and some of the experimental drugs being used would be further developed.

Also we don't know how long any immunity lasts - so those who get infected now - may not have immunity come December.

Isn't that government policy?

Flatten - and consequentially lengthen - the virus period in the hope of making best use of resources.

 

[randynewmanscat]

I’ve found two spare toilet rolls in a cupboard at home. I’m putting them on eBay and will use some of the proceeds to buy myself a brand new yellow JCB ventilator.

I want the Rolls Royce one with choice of different exotic hardwoods for the control panel fascia.

 

[Joey Shabadoo]

View: https://youtu.be/nl6tTwxzCi8

 

[kingrollo]

Isn't that government policy?

Flatten - and consequentially lengthen - the virus period in the hope of making best use of resources.

Maybe but what are they doing to slow it down ?

 

[Pale Rider]

Yeah I'm sure JRM has considered the effect on his hedge fund

I'm disappointed you seem determined to use the virus response as a stick with which to beat the government.

Plenty of opportunity to do that in relation to other policies.

But to address your latest point, why wouldn't Rees Mogg consider the impact on his hedge fund?

Lots of people in this thread, and probably nearly everyone else, have considered the impact on their wealth.

It's the responsible thing to do.

The only difference with Rees Mogg is his wealth is greater than most of the rest of us.

Maybe but what are they doing to slow it down ?

Surely that's the aim of the advice to socially isolate, wash hands, not to personally visit health establishments unless you have to, and so on.

I agree they are currently speaking softly, but that's because they are reluctant to wield the big stick, not least because the populace might refuse to respond to it.

 

[All uphill]

My son in the Netherlands reports an immediate shut down of cafes, bars, schools etc with immediate effect to 6th April.

Work from home unless essential worker.

 

[nickyboy]

I'm doing LEJOG in May

So I've got to avoid getting CV, got to hope my accomodation doesn't get CV, got to hope the pubs and restaurants are still open and got to hope we aren't locked down and I'm not allowed to cycle

 

[Pale Rider]

As a slight diversion from the virus, I see the BBC has spoken to three couples who are having to alter their wedding plans.

What struck me from the article is one couple were planning on spending £100,000 on their wedding.

I knew weddings aren't cheap, but that is a vast amount of money - I'm obviously well out of touch.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-51896636

 

[Mike_P]

Cannot see how what has happened in Italy can be taken as an indicator for events here given the differences in family social structures, not many elderly relatives here have relations visiting 24/7.

 

[Pale Rider]

Cannot see how what has happened in Italy can be taken as an indicator for events here given the differences in family social structures, not many elderly relatives here have relations visiting 24/7.

I agree, and the way they tend to interact with people outside the family is different.

The Italians, and the Spanish, are more tactile and more inclined to embrace people they meet.

Vive le difference, but very bad for virus transmission.