Coronavirus outbreak

[Deleted User]

Come in to my workplace with a cold and you'll get complained at so much by everybody else that you'll want to go home. But that's because we don't want you infecting us, which isn't an issue if you WFH, which I think is the point fossy was making. You're potentially having people work when ordinarily they'd be resting. That could be a good thing or a bad thing I suppose depending on your POV.

I suppose it depends how bothered people are about getting a runny nose, if one of us are coughing and sneezing you will get "you can f**k off over there with that cold" but as for making people go home I guess it depends on what environment you work in.

 

[Deleted User]

Us desk and chair bunch will most likely be working from home with coughs and sniffles now, but at what point do you sign off actually ill.

For me personally I've never been 'ill' enough not to go to work, I've been off following surgery but not due to a cold etc. With my job if you're feeling under the weather you can take a turn 'on the ground ' where it's an easier shift for a couple of days.
You just have to make sure the brew is ready for when the lads come down.

 

[classic33]

For me personally I've never been 'ill' enough not to go to work, I've been off following surgery but not due to a cold etc. With my job if you're feeling under the weather you can take a turn 'on the ground ' where it's an easier shift for a couple of days.
You just have to make sure the brew is ready for when the lads come down.

A cold, common or otherwise, isn't a notifiable disease like covid though.

 

[Ajax Bay]

How long will COVID-19 stay 'notifiable', do you think, thobut?
US's CDC estimate case fatality rate (cfr) for seasonal flu as between 0.1 and 0.2%.
Substantial edit: If 3M per week (ONS estimate) were newly infected with Omicron at the peak (1 Jan) in UK and deaths peaked a few days ago (15 Jan ish) at 1800pw that suggest <0.07% Omicron 'real' cfr. Have I got those figures wrong: seem too good to be true? But compare the figures in 2020 flu peak week (second week of Jan) 3000 died "involving influenza and pneumonia".
This time last year the 'peak week' (centred on 19 Jan 2021, one year ago) tragically had 8888 deaths recorded where the deceased had tested positive within 28 days. (1000 more if you go by COVID-19 on the death certificate (either primary or contributory cause.)
I dread to think what it would be like if we were all immunonaive.
Let us hope that Omicron sustains its dominance. Talk about lucky!

 

[Deleted User]

A cold, common or otherwise, isn't a notifiable disease like covid though.

I think this is the point, at some stage with symptoms being no worse than a cold people will just need to get on with it.

 

[fossyant]

For me personally I've never been 'ill' enough not to go to work, I've been off following surgery but not due to a cold etc. With my job if you're feeling under the weather you can take a turn 'on the ground ' where it's an easier shift for a couple of days.
You just have to make sure the brew is ready for when the lads come down.

I'm never off unless I've got the real flu and can't get out of bed. I do go in work with coughs, waterfall for a nose etc. We all did. Thing is, these spread like wildfire in offices, be they a/c, nothing, or new fangled 'air circulation' systems. What I'm seein with my Vaxed colleagues is mild cold symptoms, so I'd epect testing to eventually stop. Those non-vaxed are still running the gauntlet with the virus though, they could be that poor bugger that it farks up their immune system. I won't be stopping off work if were all back in with a cold/covid in future (shoud testing and rules change).

 

[Deleted User]

I'm never off unless I've got the real flu and can't get out of bed. I do go in work with coughs, waterfall for a nose etc. We all did. Thing is, these spread like wildfire in offices, be they a/c, nothing, or new fangled 'air circulation' systems. What I'm seein with my Vaxed colleagues is mild cold symptoms, so I'd epect testing to eventually stop. Those non-vaxed are still running the gauntlet with the virus though, they could be that poor bugger that it farks up their immune system. I won't be stopping off work if were all back in with a cold/covid in future (shoud testing and rules change).

I get that, never really done the office thing thankfully and working from home wouldn't really work in my game so the entire concept is quite alien to me (off work with a cold).

Nobody wants some snotridden geezer sneezing all over you obviously and Covid does make you a bit more aware I suppose.

 

[Julia9054]

TBH, I'd ratherbe working with mild cold symptoms, as it is less physically demanding to just sit at a desk all day than do the minkr bits of housework I would otherwise do.

In teaching, it's far easier going in and struggling through feeling crap than the hassle of setting cover lessons, sending them in (whilst feeling crap) and then chasing your classes up once you go back to make sure they've done the work.

 

[mjr]

Substantial edit: If 3M per week (ONS estimate) were newly infected with Omicron at the peak (1 Jan) in UK and deaths peaked a few days ago (15 Jan ish) at 1800pw that suggest <0.07% Omicron 'real' cfr.

I humbly suggest that the real case-fatality rate would be the one among the unvaccinated.

 

[Ajax Bay]

Good point. Although is the US estimate for flu without the vulnerable population vaccinated? I guess an answer is part vaccinated and wide CI.

 

[postman]

Our daughter has it,found out on Thursday morning.She is working from her home,but Friday stayed in bed all day as she felt awful.Now we took her out Wednesday night for a curry not knowing,we have done two tests and another tomorrow and we feel fine.Can't work it out,because I always give her a hug and kiss when we meet up.

 

[mjr]

Can't work it out,because I always give her a hug and kiss when we meet up.

It's probabilistic. Nothing is certain. You could have been licking up her snot*, get lucky and still not get infected.

* - don't try this at home. Actually, don't try it anywhere, please.

 

[Deleted User]

I know a number of instances now where 1 or 2 members of a household get it but not the rest, I assume being jabbed/boosted is having an effect on this or just lucky?

 

[DaveReading]

In that respect (though not in others), it's no different from the common cold.

 

[mjr]

I know a number of instances now where 1 or 2 members of a household get it but not the rest, I assume being jabbed/boosted is having an effect on this or just lucky?

Why not both? Vaccination is like stacking the deck. Coming into contact with covid is drawing a card.