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DCLane

Found in the Yorkshire hills ...
SWMBO's been contacted via test and trace - she went to visit someone on Monday. As she's NHS staff she's off to get a PCR test and we'll hope it's negative, otherwise our Christmas plans are messed up.

She does lateral flow tests for her job almost daily, negative so far. Given she's worked with Ebola, Sars and other similar nasties in her patient-facing job role over the past 30 years I'm guessing she's immune to almost anything.
 

PaulSB

Squire
My sister tested positive yesterday. Always masks and regular hand cleaner, a habit developed when our Mum was living with her up to the beginning of this month. Triple jabbed so she should be OK.
No idea where she picked it up from. Could have been the Tescos or the gym.
I went to the gym on Monday for the first time since March 2019. I was positive on Wednesday with LFT and PCR tests. There were only 6 people on the spin class which has room for 24.

Family Christmas cancelled for today. Replanned for Tuesday. I now think I was stupid to go and gyms are probably one of the most dangerous places one can visit. Membership cancelled.
 

Slick

Guru
I went to the gym on Monday for the first time since March 2019. I was positive on Wednesday with LFT and PCR tests. There were only 6 people on the spin class which has room for 24.

Family Christmas cancelled for today. Replanned for Tuesday. I now think I was stupid to go and gyms are probably one of the most dangerous places one can visit. Membership cancelled.
Pure speculation on my part but 2 days is quite early for an LFT to pick it up in my obviously limited experience. We do around 130 tests twice a week and pick up some positive cases almost weekly and have done for months now. It seems to me that the LFT needs more like 4 days from suspected infection to returning a positive result. You may well have picked it up in the gym, but you may well have picked it up some other way prior to attending the gym.
 

PaulSB

Squire
Pure speculation on my part but 2 days is quite early for an LFT to pick it up in my obviously limited experience. We do around 130 tests twice a week and pick up some positive cases almost weekly and have done for months now. It seems to me that the LFT needs more like 4 days from suspected infection to returning a positive result. You may well have picked it up in the gym, but you may well have picked it up some other way prior to attending the gym.
Thank you that's interesting and I didn't know this. I've since down a bit of reading on the WHO website and it seems infection to symptoms is 5/6 days on average and up to 14 days.

It does explain to me why the NHS T&T seemed more interested in my contacts December 14th to 18th than the 19th onwards.

I'm glad you posted as it's made me feel better. I have been feeling cancelled Christmas is my fault for being stupid enough to visit a gym. It sounds more likely I was just unlucky somewhere because I've been taking every precaution I can.
 

Slick

Guru
Thank you that's interesting and I didn't know this. I've since down a bit of reading on the WHO website and it seems infection to symptoms is 5/6 days on average and up to 14 days.

It does explain to me why the NHS T&T seemed more interested in my contacts December 14th to 18th than the 19th onwards.

I'm glad you posted as it's made me feel better. I have been feeling cancelled Christmas is my fault for being stupid enough to visit a gym. It sounds more likely I was just unlucky somewhere because I've been taking every precaution I can.
Good I'm glad, picking up an infection isn't anyone's fault, especially now.

The Track and Trace thing is always an interesting conversation and a much better indicator to how long you have possibly had any infection as well as how long you could have been passing it on.

Hope you get over this quickly and enjoy a belated celebration with everyone later. 👍
 

fossyant

Ride It Like You Stole It!
Location
South Manchester
Cancelling all pre-christmas plans have worked. All the family tested negative this morning, so Chritmas can go ahead. Friend's daughter caught it, triple jabbed. Air hostess so thinks she's picked it up in flight. She's been very ill with it, and has had anti-biotics to help clear her chest up.
 
Pure speculation on my part but 2 days is quite early for an LFT to pick it up in my obviously limited experience. We do around 130 tests twice a week and pick up some positive cases almost weekly and have done for months now. It seems to me that the LFT needs more like 4 days from suspected infection to returning a positive result. You may well have picked it up in the gym, but you may well have picked it up some other way prior to attending the gym.

I think it's changing a bit with omicron - probably too soon to be certain, but from what I'm reading, the entire process seems to be somewhat compressed in time, compared to original and delta - ie testing +ve (and therefore being infectious oneself) sooner after initial infection and remaining +ve (and thus infectious) for a shorter time ...
So there's that puzzle to add to the 'where/when did I pick it up? question.
At this point I don't think it's worth concerning oneself about where or when it was picked up and certainly there's no point in guilt feelings of any sort as we are all (unless we live in a literal, physical bubble of some sort) going to be exposed to O and have no say over whether or not we will have a symptomatic infection ... All we can do is stay aware and careful and try to minimise the viral load in the environment ( eg ventilation, masks, hygiene) for the (possible/probable) benefit of the more-vulnerable among us.
 

Slick

Guru
I think it's changing a bit with omicron - probably too soon to be certain, but from what I'm reading, the entire process seems to be somewhat compressed in time, compared to original and delta - ie testing +ve (and therefore being infectious oneself) sooner after initial infection and remaining +ve (and thus infectious) for a shorter time ...
So there's that puzzle to add to the 'where/when did I pick it up? question.
At this point I don't think it's worth concerning oneself about where or when it was picked up and certainly there's no point in guilt feelings of any sort as we are all (unless we live in a literal, physical bubble of some sort) going to be exposed to O and have no say over whether or not we will have a symptomatic infection ... All we can do is stay aware and careful and try to minimise the viral load in the environment ( eg ventilation, masks, hygiene) for the (possible/probable) benefit of the more-vulnerable among us.
I agree. Omicron may well change my experiences so far, time will tell on that score. I was expecting 12 for lunch later and asked everyone to test because we have 1 vulnerable person in the group, but sadly my niece tested positive and due to the household isolating rules in Scotland, the younger niece can't come either. I try to ignore the fact their mother then went out to the supermarket to get themselves a turkey. :banghead:
 

Slick

Guru
I agree. Omicron may well change my experiences so far, time will tell on that score. I was expecting 12 for lunch later and asked everyone to test because we have 1 vulnerable person in the group, but sadly my niece tested positive and due to the household isolating rules in Scotland, the younger niece can't come either. I try to ignore the fact their mother then went out to the supermarket to get themselves a turkey. :banghead:
I meant to add that everyone in the family immediately blamed the niece for being out clubbing when the actual truth is she is far more likely to have caught it whilst waitressing and dealing with the public.
 
I meant to add that everyone in the family immediately blamed the niece for being out clubbing when the actual truth is she is far more likely to have caught it whilst waitressing and dealing with the public.

Now with O there can be no possible 'blame' laid on anyone who - despite responsible behaviour - catches it; she was probably more likely to have caught it from a totally asymptomatic brief contact who was -ve on LFT earlier in the day, than she was from anyone else.
Anyone dealing with the public on a regular basis WILL be infected with O and probably sooner rather than later.
 

Slick

Guru
Now with O there can be no possible 'blame' laid on anyone who - despite responsible behaviour - catches it; she was probably more likely to have caught it from a totally asymptomatic brief contact who was -ve on LFT earlier in the day, than she was from anyone else.
Anyone dealing with the public on a regular basis WILL be infected with O and probably sooner rather than later.
I think the family are now widely in agreement but it did take some explaining initially.

I was just delighted she tested, as I've seen first hand what some of the younger ones think of that. :eek:
 

Bazzer

Setting the controls for the heart of the sun.
I went to the gym on Monday for the first time since March 2019. I was positive on Wednesday with LFT and PCR tests. There were only 6 people on the spin class which has room for 24.

Family Christmas cancelled for today. Replanned for Tuesday. I now think I was stupid to go and gyms are probably one of the most dangerous places one can visit. Membership cancelled.
Your post did come to mind when sister told me of her positive test and what she told me at the time had previously been doing.
After she told me, I also did some online research about the incubation period, because she had visited our Mum, who is in a care home, the evening before the +ve test. I and my family would like Mum ^_^to come to my house on the 27th, but daughter 2's boyfriend's mother works in a care home, so I am wary of our household being a conduit for spreading it between care homes.
What my sister hadn't mentioned, until she was on a call this morning and looking as rough as a bear's a***, was that she had also been on a works Christmas do.:sad:
On the bright side, as a result of my sister testing +ve, the home did a PCR yesterday, which they wouldn't have otherwise done. Had they stuck to their usual Mondays for everyone and no one is allowed out until the PCR results come back, Mum wouldn't be allowed out on the 27th. So finger crossed, Mum's test comes back negative.
 
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