Coronavirus outbreak

[Ajax Bay]

Zoe 11 Jul (for vaccinated v unvaccinated infection incidence)

There will be influences on this from the one dose/two dose proportion and the infection levels age cohorts with one or no jabs.

 

[KnittyNorah]

I know you love to split hairs, and I'm happy to play along, I will be following the LEGAL requirement (as I'm led to believe) and not wearing a mask from Tomorrow.

I hope this addresses your confusion adequately 🥱

Thankfully there is no legal requirement to not wear a mask. The legal requirement to wear one may have been removed, but that does not mean one should abdicate one's societal responsibility to minimise the spread of infection to others who may be more vulnerable than oneself, which is the purpose of wearing masks (in anything other than specialist situations).

However, there are clearly a great many people labouring under the mistaken belief that as of tomorrow they become physically unable to transmit the virus from their daft gobs or schnozzles, even to the most vulnerable of our citizens and even in the most cramped and crowded of environments.

I don't care one iota (other than for the inevitable extra stress on medical staff) if or even how ill these idiots become. What I do object to is that - whatever the law might say - they are willingly abdicating their responsibility to wider society.

 

[Unkraut]

So if they NEED to be worn why has the legal requirement to wear them been removed?

Because the British govt is prepared to take a risk with the strain on the healthcare system that increased rates will not push it beyond what it can cope with. That's been the comment here. There is no assumption that the worst will happen, but a system already ailing due to chronic underfunding and now staffed by people exhausted from over a year of the strain of covid is bound not to cope as well as it might, especially with long-term consequences that a higher infection rate will bring.

Speaking to the gaffer of our local and from tomorrow table service stops, mask wearing stops, table limits stop and the one way system stops so whatever terminology you want to use restrictions are being removed.

The fact the legal requirement is being removed does not mean the basic hygiene measures are no longer needed. That is the point of contention.

Under communism the collective is everything and the individual nothing. Under the current British administration (the looney right?) the individual is everything and the collective nothing. In a pandemic though you cannot ignore the collective under a banner of individual freedom and liberty as the virus will ignore this and damage the collective.

 

[Julia9054]

So if they NEED to be worn why has the legal requirement to wear them been removed?

So the government can blame the people instead of their own p!ss poor mismanagement if it goes tits up over the next few months

 

[Unkraut]

Theres no law to stop me pulling items out of a fellow shopper’s trolley, laughing in their face, farting and walking off.

Today in Parliament:

The Criminal Justice (Amendment) (Farting) Regulations 2021.

 

[markemark]

So if they NEED to be worn why has the legal requirement to wear them been removed?

Speaking to the gaffer of our local and from tomorrow table service stops, mask wearing stops, table limits stop and the one way system stops so whatever terminology you want to use restrictions are being removed.

Luckily no-one on here will be going so not an issue for you.

To pass the responsibility onto us so it’s no longer the government’s fault if it gets out of hand.

 

[Adam4868]

They continually take this country for mugs...to be honest if you voted for them...

View: https://twitter.com/bbclaurak/status/1416694536496091139?s=19

 

[deptfordmarmoset]

They continually take this country for mugs...to be honest if you voted for them...

View: https://twitter.com/bbclaurak/status/1416694536496091139?s=19

I had a coffee on Friday with a friend who works for the cabinet office. He mentioned a monitoring group in which ministers and VIPs won't have to self-isolate. While not secret in an official sense, it's all been pretty hush hush. So when this group gets referred to indirectly today, it seems that the U-turn was because the public haven't been softened up enough for it to wash. Indeed, the lack of detail given about the monitoring group suggests that they still want to keep it out of the public gaze.

 

[Ajax Bay]

The pingdemic is a significant threat to UK society's ordered (and not risk free) relaxation of restrictions. The chances of a fully vaccinated person being infected (compared to one not vaccinated) is less than 20%. And of that <20%, only half will be potentially infectious (ie potential for transmission (these figures from assumptions made in modelling for SAGE).
So when an NHS patient-facing nurse (say, or even one of our nation's leaders) gets pinged, is it sensible to demand self-isolation for 10 days? (I am aware that them's the rulz - but are those rules 'sensible'?) Self-isolate: get a PCR and if negative, cease self-isolation - seems a reasonable low-risk approach (and certainly less risk than several other sanctioned activities).
I do not support some cunning non-self-isolation 'study' which the PM and CoE have wisely resiled on, realising it would be a 'bad idea'. Similarly I thought the full Wembley 'study' lacked any sense of responsibility - what are the results of that study btw?

 

[Adam4868]

I had a coffee on Friday with a friend who works for the cabinet office.

Coffee....you've changed.It used to be beer😁

 

[Edwardoka]

We've heard all the crap analogies already, from baseball bat swinging to getting pi**ed on in Asda!

Keep away from anywhere you think people are going to hit you with a bat or P**s on you!

From what you've said in the past you hardly mix and work from home so what extra risk will you be encountering from tomorrow may I ask?

Today I went into a coffee shop for a quick pick me up before the big final push of the longest bike ride I've done since 2017.

Despite the rules still being in place and purportedly enforced in Scotland, I'd say that there were probably 30 people indoors, sans mask.
Perhaps one can elucidate on how exactly I or the employees are supposed to protect ourselves in that scenario?

I could have walked back out. The masked-up employees did not have such luxury.

 

[Deleted User]

I could have walked back out. The masked-up employees did not have such luxury.

The answer for you is right there, walk out, the employee's unfortunately are scuppered unless they enforce it.

From today there won't be a choice, here anyway.

 

[theclaud]

Denmark recognising that Wales is a civilised nation.


View: https://twitter.com/SkyNewsBreak/status/1416456400373522435?s=19


I had to run away from a woman from Leeds last night. She was trying to hug and kiss everyone. England is mental.

 

[Adam4868]

I had to run away from a woman from Leeds last night. She was trying to hug and kiss everyone. England is mental

Often happens to me....even before covid 🙄

 

[mjr]

NHS workers to be allowed to go back to work if they test negative, says the TV. More subversion of test 3, or saving face after revelation of the plan to let ministers do that?