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kingrollo
Guru
I think the nightingales were an initial response to "We need more beds" - "ok here is in some space with beds in it" TBF i don't think it was a PR stunt - just thinking at 100mph . Since then hospitals have got smarter and redeployed existing space as wards/ITU - but now they seem to be at the limits of that.
Worrying times.
Joey Shabadoo
My pronouns are "He", "Him" and "buggerlugs"
Purely anecdotal but my sister is a nursing assistant at Ninewells Hospital. They're having staffing problems due to self-isolating requirements but also because the nurses who were how shall we say, a tad "work-shy" before Covid, are now "ripping the piss entirely". Nurses are people too and just as in any field, there are those who will find excuses not to work. As the pressure increases, more will be tempted.
matticus
Guru
I've heard mentions of staffing issues in every area (hospitals, post office, trains ... ). Are there are any hard figures in circulation? I'm sure it's a real problem, it might even be a massive real problem :-/
raleighnut
Legendary Member
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Having had a couple of week long 'stays' in hospital a few years back after major surgery on my leg I would say that many Nurses are lazy, the Nursing Assistants did the majority of the work. They seemed to have the attitude that they were 'in charge' and therefore just supervised.
fossyant
Ride It Like You Stole It!
- Location
- South Manchester
Even in 'Universities' there are challenges, and the 'work shy' are milking it. We've had a number of 'covid anxiety' sick notes. The NHS will be massively affected by sickness and self isolation though !
kingrollo
Guru
I don't think it fair to lump 'Nurses' all into one group. They range from Clinical Nurse Specialist - who can amongst other thing prescribe drugs, run clinics, - to staff nurses and Aux nurses. It might well be that some Nurses role is 'just' to supervise.
Ive done some work in A+E and the head consultant takes responsibility - and manages the floor and says what needs to happen - he role might not to be to run around like a blue ass F - Same with many management positions - you are paid for responsibility (The worry factor !) - rather than workload.
Joey Shabadoo
My pronouns are "He", "Him" and "buggerlugs"
That was something my mother brought up. She was a nurse for 40 years - SEN then District Nurse. The State Enrolled Nurses and State Registered Nurses were given general training and could work in pretty much any area of a hospital (my mum did A&E, Theatre, Psychiatric and a few others) but nurses now seem to be more specialised meaning they've closed wards to make room for Covid but they can't necessarily use the nurses from there as they don't have the relevant training to work in High Dependency wards.
Also anecdotally, it's recognised that ventilators do a lot of damage so they're very much the last resort option now compared to March and they're less likely to transfer patients to High Dependency wards. Better treatment is good but paradoxically causes problems because patients who would have died in March are now living - but taking up a hospital bed for longer.
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raleighnut
Legendary Member
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- One of the 'Elite'
Let's just say I had some bad experiences in hospital and please note I did not lump all nurses togetherm some are dedicated and work very hard whereas others are useless especially one of the male 'Charge Nurses' (male equivilant of a Sister) whose inaction caused me severe pain, I asked for a dressing to be removed due to irritation and he ignored me and left it on for 8 hours and when the next 'shift' got round to changing it there was severe blistering that took weeks to heal. It was so bad that the nurse who did remove the dressing called the ward Doctor as she was horrified by what she saw underneath (turns out I'm allergic to that particular Adhesive) I think the bloke got a
pawl
Legendary Member
- Location
- Desford Leicestershire
We had to be careful with Micropore dressing some patients had allergic reactions to that particular dressing
Not anymore, the UK has left!
France took patients from Italy and Germany took them from Italy and Spain.
Ajax Bay
Guru
- Location
- East Devon
That was exactly the oblique point @IaninSheffield was sobbing about.
The northern littoral nations are still our neighbours, I think. Does membership of the EU facilitate the transfer of patients from one member to another? By what mechanism?
Perhaps the UK could help our continental neighbours with advice on vaccination authorisation and administration.
Good to get away from off topic NHS nurse-bashing.
byegad
Legendary Member
- Location
- NE England
I'm allergic to elastoplast in most of its forms. Any application will after as little as an hour remove the entire area of skin under the actual adhesive leaving a suppurating sore. I am not allergic to micropore.
raleighnut
Legendary Member
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- One of the 'Elite'
This was a large absorbant pad to contain the 'seepage' from an 8 inch long incision* to my thigh so the 'pad' was about a foot long with a band of adhesive around the edge, they hadn't used anything like this when they inserted the first Intramedullary 'Nail'.
If this dressing had been removed or changed when I'd asked the Charge Nurse to do so the blistering would not have been so extensive or traumatic (some of the blisters were enormous) but he ignored my repeated requests to do so. By the time the Nurse on the next shift did remove this dressing she visibly blanched as it came off and fetched the Doctor immediately.
* I'd snapped my Femur into 3 pieces so they'd had to put a fixing in mid way down my leg to fasten the loose piece so of course this had to come out when they had a 2nd attempt at repairing the break by removing the 1st 'Nail' drilling out the bone and putting another bigger pin in. After the initial op I was 'non load bearing' for a month then partial for another 2, once that had been removed I asked how long I'd be 'non load bearing' for with the new one to be told by the Surgeon "You could go jogging if you want to"
