roubaixtuesday
self serving virtue signaller
Yup.
I'm in a tier two area and passed a restaurant on the way to get my flu jab earlier.
Like an alcoholic virus incubater.
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Yup.
I'm in a tier two area and passed a restaurant on the way to get my flu jab earlier.
Like an alcoholic virus incubater.
MntnMan62
Über Member
- Location
- Northern NJ
I think that if anyone wants to take themselves into a crowded bar, not wear a mask and not socially distance, then they should be made to stay there until the pandemic is over. Let's see how much they really like alcohol. I love it. But not enough to be an imbecile about the virus.
A lot of the UK stuff there's a large political element.
A third of the population are hesistant and not really mixing, a third have reduced their contact quite a bit and a third are just doing whatever they want.
London schools are getting sent kits to try and stave off tier 3. Whatever happens it needs to go into tier 3. It's not what anyone wants. Yet on a daily basis scientists and others are saying tier 2 doesn't contain and that they are expecting similar restrictions on till late spring/early summer.
Universities today have had a lot of info released that suggests in those that have reported outbreaks are pretty small now with mass-ish testing.
MntnMan62
Über Member
- Location
- Northern NJ
I hear you. My lack of patience with the no mask, no social distancing crowd is due to the fact that I'd say an easy 40% of the US population fit that description. Maybe more. And look at the number of cases and deaths in this country. We are setting records every day for cases and deaths. And you can't blame it on us doing too much testing. We can blame it on the science denier in the white house.
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Yes, case numbers and growth make it look like London should be regraded to head off growth. Are hospital occupancy rates published anywhere easy to follow? That's another key measure they use.
But also yes, the economic, social and political consequences of telling Londoners to stay in their own rather small boroughs and of increasing the discouragement of residents of nearby Tier 2 commuter belt from going into London, right before Christmas, is likely to make Mr Dither-and-Delay do what that name suggests, despite the likely contribution to the death toll
Sky seem to think that it's not changed much in London
https://news.sky.com/story/covid-19...whats-happened-since-lockdown-lifted-12157342
The time stamps could have been clearer, what they mean, they clearly aren't 67 weeks in a year and 67 days sounds the wrong sort of timescale.
mjr
Comfy armchair to one person & a plank to the next
- Location
- mostly Norfolk, sometimes Somerset
It's not allowed, is it? https://www.gov.uk/guidance/working...id-19/offices-and-contact-centres#offices-3-4
MntnMan62
Über Member
- Location
- Northern NJ
According to Worldometers the US has surpassed the 300,000 mark for Covid deaths. What has Trump said about the number of deaths in this country? I quote, "It is what it is." Unconscionable.
Here mask wearing is very high, all right so not like some Asian countries and things could be better, but it's pretty high. It's mostly employees not wearing. The distancing, well yeah it's better than nothing, but it's got a lot worse. In certain environments people seem to be doing just enough of it.
It's the home visits that many of us expect are going on. I did an errand to pick up my parents' prescriptions. On the short walk there I saw people leave four houses, extended goodbyes and get in the cars and said goodbye from couples every time. These are people who'd clearly not been bubbled and spent a long enough while in someone else's house to say very long goodbyes and hugs and chats and so on.
MntnMan62
Über Member
- Location
- Northern NJ
Over here the mask wearing generally reflects the political makeup of the population. So here in Northern NJ which voted for Biden, wherever you go people are wearing masks in stores and around other people. And people are also social distancing. Anyone not respecting distance will be spoken to. I know I have. I'll even see people driving in their cars, alone, and wearing a mask. That one I don't quite get. If I were to go down to Southern NJ or some states down South or in the middle of the country, people aren't wearing masks or social distancing. And those would be the states that voted for Trump. Trump and all the anti-mask/social distancing people are proven wrong each and every day. Today's total according to Worldometers is over 306,000 dead from Covid in the US. That's just unconscionable.
I've certainly gained that impression from this side of the Pond, the non-wearers being obsessed with Big Government, but obviously you are in the know on this and can confirm the impression.
This should be purely a medical issue, not a political one. That is, of course, stating the obvious, except to vast numbers of people both there and here it isn't at all obvious.
Here on the non-weekend tallies, it often reaches 400-500 deaths a day. People don't watch the news now and if they did many are just desensitized to the death in the same way as after a few months war, famine, other natural disasters people just zone out. I was telling someone today they've finally changed the self isolation for large numbers of people from 14 down to 10 days. People are just not bothered.
It's just cross your finger time in the UK. We all know people are going to maximise the three household 'Christmas bubbles' on 23rd to 27th December, or um exceed it. And maybe a week or two either side
. Averaged over the entire population it's just hoping that the amount of time spent around over 50s and interhousehold mixing is reduced enough for things to be very bad in January. It's a vain hope.On the other hand not everyone is indoors. Many parks at weekends are bonkers, it's completely rammed.
classic33
Leg End Member
There's some wearing ones with the Red Rose on, in Yorkshire!
MntnMan62
Über Member
- Location
- Northern NJ
And we saw almost 3,350 Covid deaths this past Thursday alone, a record for the pandemic. This is what Trump has wrought on us with his tripe.
Beebo
Firm and Fruity
- Location
- Hexleybeef
It appears from various government statements that a business lunch is allowed, but as you say the guidelines don’t appear to allow it.
I’m asking because a friend of mine is travelling to London today to have a “business lunch” on a Saturday.
He knows it’s a loophole but appears happy to use it. I’m not very impressed.
