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Julia9054

Julia9054

Guru
Location
Knaresborough
45% of our school are currently self isolating or the year group is closed. There are so many positive cases - kids and staff - that I have lost count. The Head has had a meeting with Public Health England who have told him that this is perfectly normal for a large urban secondary school. He has been told that he is not allowed to shut and move learning online for the last week. And now i read that they are rolling out mass testing for schools - in London and Essex only. Sod the North as usual.
 
deptfordmarmoset

deptfordmarmoset

Full time tea drinker
Location
Armonmy Way
MntnMan62 said:
There is a pretty active thread on a local page of FB for my community about the merits or flaws of sending kids to school. Some have said that so few kids get Covid and many are struggling with at home online schooling that they should be back in school. My own opinion is that while only 1.2% of Covid related deaths are children, studies have found that children are a major factor in community spread. They may not have the virus but they are carriers and they bring the virus home and spread it to their family members. Here in the US many hospitals are nearing or have reached over 90% of capacity. And it hasn't peaked yet. Numbers of cases are still rising which means hospitalizations will continue to rise. That will put people who are gravely ill from other issues at risk of receiving less than the best care and treatment. So, even if someone doesn't have Covid, their death could very well be related to Covid now. Sending children to school now is foolish, selfish and totally blind to reality.
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I have to agree with you on this. The political thinking is couched as being for their future, but spreading misery around their family is no future worth having. They are spreaders - innocent but spreaders nevertheless - and the age and number of hospitalised goes slowly and inexorably upward. The potential to exacerbate the spreading over Christmas (and your Thanksgiving) is enormous.
 
raleighnut

raleighnut

Legendary Member
Location
One of the 'Elite'
MntnMan62 said:
There is a pretty active thread on a local page of FB for my community about the merits or flaws of sending kids to school. Some have said that so few kids get Covid and many are struggling with at home online schooling that they should be back in school. My own opinion is that while only 1.2% of Covid related deaths are children, studies have found that children are a major factor in community spread. They may not have the virus but they are carriers and they bring the virus home and spread it to their family members. Here in the US many hospitals are nearing or have reached over 90% of capacity. And it hasn't peaked yet. Numbers of cases are still rising which means hospitalizations will continue to rise. That will put people who are gravely ill from other issues at risk of receiving less than the best care and treatment. So, even if someone doesn't have Covid, their death could very well be related to Covid now. Sending children to school now is foolish, selfish and totally blind to reality.
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Kids could catch upeasily if the tutors are prepared to put the work in.
 
marinyork

marinyork

Resting in suspended Animation
Location
Logopolis
The joke with London is in March, when a lot less was known about covid and what works and doesn't, the government thought about things for a week and a half deciding not to shut things down in the M25. 9 months on and they are there again.

The hypocrisy is all the fecking politicians live there, so they don't want it.

It also shows you they think the lateral flow tests work to bring transmission down a lot. Giving the schools in 7 boroughs them.
 
Unkraut

Unkraut

Master of the Inane Comment
Location
Germany
The situation here remains serious. Record number of new infections today, and although the lockdown lite stopped the rapid increase in infections, they have plateaued and are not coming down. The country has long since lost control of the situation, especially with tracking.

There will be a special meeting of all the states (Länder) with the chancellor on Sunday to agree new measures, although some have jumped the gun due to the urgency of the situation (Saxony, for example). In some hotspots the hospitals have reached maximum capacity with intensive care, and non-essential operations have been postponed.

The Irish are now seen as an example to follow. They have successfully dealt with a similar level of infections. The only real question is will a hard lockdown apply before Christmas or after it. Personally I think before would be better, it might save lives and will do less damage to the economy as things generally run down over the Christmas period anyway.

Normal shopping and celebrating Christmas are almost certainly no longer tenable. The Bürgermeister of Berlin gave an emotional speech today saying 'how many lives is it worth so I can enjoy a shopping experience'.

The rule of maximum of 5 people from 2 households will continue be imposed, the level of contact has got to be reduced. A lengthy school holiday is also likely, despite the earlier policy of wanting to keep them open. Curfews are being imposed in some places.

I think the politicians took their eye off the ball over summer, everything seemed under control. Maybe they could have prepared better for the predicted second wave.

No-one knows exactly why the figures have risen so dramatically, but it is most likely that a significant factor is too many are no longer abiding by the hygiene and distancing rules.
 
classic33

classic33

Leg End Member
I've relatives in Ireland, who have complained about how little was being done. By, they agree with the measures that were put in place.

Self-serve checkouts appeared in supermarkets, as the only means of taking payment. One of them hates the things, with a vengeance, but realises they're a necessary evil.
 
MntnMan62

MntnMan62

Über Member
Location
Northern NJ
deptfordmarmoset said:
I have to agree with you on this. The political thinking is couched as being for their future, but spreading misery around their family is no future worth having. They are spreaders - innocent but spreaders nevertheless - and the age and number of hospitalised goes slowly and inexorably upward. The potential to exacerbate the spreading over Christmas (and your Thanksgiving) is enormous.
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You used a very key word there to describe children - Innocent. That they are. And because they are innocent it is up to us not to put them in harms way. Because despite what I keep hearing from idiots in my community, children ARE getting sick and some even die. And when they get sick, sometimes they are left with permanent and debilitating disability. If we allow children to be put in that position then we are no better than the animals who kill for sport. I heard on the radio today that some people are referring to children as "the lost generation" because they haven't been able to be in school for in person learning. Really? First of all, this pandemic has not even been around for a full year. A year is not a generation. And if it take another year to get a vaccine out and distributed to get kids back in school, 2 years isn't a generation either. I find that description of the lost generation completely sensationalistic and completely inaccurate. And its a product of the imbecile in chief who failed to take a national approach at fighting the virus. I'll stop now because if I keep going I may get banned.
 
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