Corona Virus: How Are We Doing?

[tom73]

The local rates can be found here: https://phe.maps.arcgis.com/apps/we...-IVwMbqnpUGUheHnlspDDuAg_WFxtz9Y3_MNV9DlzmDsk

Appears to be updated 4pm each day.

They normally say when they are updated it starts around 4pm takes about 15mins.

 

[Rusty Nails]

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This was an interesting graphic in the daily mail, not sure where it came from but guessing PHE.

I am not sure exactly what to make of this graph. It is clear that family situations cause the highest number of infections, but then I would imagine almost everyone has some sort of family interaction. The other groups probably have a lot less people involved in them so you would expect the numbers to be lower. I would have thought a more meaningful chart would show the number of infections based as a percentage of people taking part in those activities. Also can an infected person appear in several of the various categories?

 

[srw]

I thought it was worth sharing this graph, which illustrates quite how deadly Covid-19 is.

The black line is the number of people killed in the UK by the end of August 2020 by Covid-19. The blue line is the number of people killed in the whole of each year by flu and pneumonia, and the green line the number of people killed by flu and pneumonia each year up to the end of August - so only half of each winter flu/pneumonia season. My best guess is that by the end of this calendar year we'll see Covid-19 being more deadly in the UK than any flu season in the 20th century other than 1918 and possibly 1929.

It's particularly sobering when you realise that the conservative statisticians at ONS have made the Covid-19 stats look lower by only focussing on deaths caused by Covid-19, not associated with Covid-19. So some of this year's flu and pneumonia deaths, and other cuase deaths, will actually be Covid-19 deaths - just not recorded as such.

https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopula...deathsoccurringbetween1januaryand31august2020

 

[Andy in Germany]

Youngest Son had his Konfirmation service yesterday, which is an important coming of age step in this part of Germany. Normally this happens in Spring but it was delayed due to the virus. Usually the church is packed for this service, but the pastor made it clear that it was for immediate family only this time, so it was a shorter and more muted service.

The church split the group and held two services, and the families were kept separate so we could stay over 1.5m apart. Masks were mandatory for everyone who wasn't actually saying something at the front and the only singing was from the musicians.

Being German it was also very well organised: there were disinfectant stations by the doors and a team of volunteers came in as the first service ended and disinfected everything that people may have touched. Conversations inside were discouraged but people were free to gather in the courtyard provided they kept their distance.

So far it looks like I can get back to Freiburg later this week to go to work...

 

[yo vanilla]

There are seven people at my office (of about 30-35) tested positive over the weekend. I've been working from home nearly always for the last month.

 

[C R]

The dad of daughter 2 best friend tested positive, caught at work, so isolating at home, not serious by the looks of it. Rest of the family isolating too.

 

[Unkraut]

The middle one had to pop into casualty in Nottingham for a couple of stitches for a cut. Just walked in, and had to hunt for the disinfectant. Met a girl there, first year student, had apparently tried to jump out of the window of her flat. Flatmates both have covid, she was feverish and had lost her sense of smell, yet was allowed for a while into the waiting room.

With this kind of lackadaisical attitude at the medical end I'm not surprised the rate of infections is increasing. Perhaps a bit less micro-managing everyone's lives from the government and more concentration on where the real danger lies would be in order. I was very surprised at this, as was she.

 

[Andy in Germany]

The middle one had to pop into casualty in Nottingham for a couple of stitches for a cut. Just walked in, and had to hunt for the disinfectant. Met a girl there, first year student, had apparently tried to jump out of the window of her flat. Flatmates both have covid, she was feverish and had lost her sense of smell, yet was allowed for a while into the waiting room.

With this kind of lackadaisical attitude at the medical end I'm not surprised the rate of infections is increasing. Perhaps a bit less micro-managing everyone's lives from the government and more concentration on where the real danger lies would be in order. I was very surprised at this, as was she.

Oh great, my cousin lives in Nottingham and just tested positive...

 

[Unkraut]

Oh great, my cousin lives in Nottingham and just tested positive...

I hope he or she will be part of the majority for whom this is not too much of an ordeal.

 

[Andy in Germany]

The middle one had to pop into casualty in Nottingham for a couple of stitches for a cut. Just walked in, and had to hunt for the disinfectant. Met a girl there, first year student, had apparently tried to jump out of the window of her flat. Flatmates both have covid, she was feverish and had lost her sense of smell, yet was allowed for a while into the waiting room.

With this kind of lackadaisical attitude at the medical end I'm not surprised the rate of infections is increasing. Perhaps a bit less micro-managing everyone's lives from the government and more concentration on where the real danger lies would be in order. I was very surprised at this, as was she.

I wonder if that's because the crisis has gone on for so long staff in hospitals are just burned out and exhausted: they've managed over six months of high pressure with little support apart from a couple of Thursdays in summer when people gave them a clap.
I can imagine that things are beginning to slide, not because people don't care or have a poor attitude but because they don't have the energy and the cases seem to be increasing regardless of what they do.

 

[Andy in Germany]

Hmm, a new development: our town has declared face masks mandatory on the main shopping streets (as well as public transport and shops/public offices et c).

Even though Germany as a whole has lower infection rates than many other countries the local rate is a bit higher than average.

 

[marinyork]

Hmm, a new development: our town has declared face masks mandatory on the main shopping streets (as well as public transport and shops/public offices et c).

Even though Germany as a whole has lower infection rates than many other countries the local rate is a bit higher than average.

Incremental gains.

In the UK one of the oxford professors overseeing the vaccine here has done an exclusive with the daily mail saying that distancing and face masks will be here to July even if it works.

 

[C R]

Incremental gains.

In the UK one of the oxford professors overseeing the vaccine here has done an exclusive with the daily mail saying that distancing and face masks will be here to July even if it works.

I don't think anyone that had been paying attention would have been surprised by that statement.

 

[fossyant]

MIL in tears again last night. Bed a 'bit flat' - it's a medical grade bed that's 'inflated', but as she sleeps propped up, her 'bottom' sinks into the mattress too far, hitting the base of the bed. Wife phoned home and told them to sort it there and then, which they did, as they weren't answering MIL's call button. Homes must be terribly busy as there isn't relatives popping in to 'assist', never mind staffing shortages.

We have a huge number of very depressed elderly folk who just want to die now - not permitted to see family, unlikely to see anyone at Christmas. The Government need to allow visits that are 'safe'.

 

[marinyork]

I don't think anyone that had been paying attention would have been surprised by that statement.

A lot on here charmed into vaccine promises by the media. It will be why these mask policies are here to stay. It's only the last month as the media are aware of timelines that the views of those working on it have been reported more prominently.