Corona Virus: How Are We Doing?

[fossyant]

Same here, but as I've probably posted more than enough now, I'm struggling to justify doing it under the virus advice/restrictions.

It's why were shutting the van today.

 

[Pale Rider]

It's why were shutting the van today.

Ah, I did wonder.

Well done, you are certainly doing your bit.

Frustrating to see others not doing the same in lots of ways, not just with caravans.

 

[marinyork]

The Scottish government shouldn't have to officially shut down anything, the whole tourism industry in the Highlands is already almost totally shut down, it is simply impractical to attempt to close beaches here. I'm unaware of any massed gatherings anywhere in the Highlands.
Why should we wait for the setting up of legislation to effect behaviour change? Can we not just accept present advice which is not over demanding anyway?

Of course they need shut it down. You don't expect locals to stick to it do you?

What will happen in Scotland will be precisely what happened in Italy where locals will be rightly saying don't come to our area. They will then say don't come to are our area as it spreads the virus. This is partially wrong. The virus is already in the area. Any local that goes out will be spreading it. Some locals will turn their back the other way and then say right well as it's such a nice area I'm going to be travelling 5 miles to x, 10 miles to y and 20 miles to z. Spread, spread, spread.

This is exactly what happened in Italy and it will happen in the Scottish highlands, Cornwall, the peak district, Snowdonia, all sorts of other rural areas. The rural cases the last week are starting to ramp up.

 

[fossyant]

Ah, I did wonder.

Well done, you are certainly doing your bit.

Frustrating to see others not doing the same in lots of ways, not just with caravans.

My folks are shutting down, as are most others. Plenty of boots open this morning and cars being loaded.

 

[Fab Foodie]

I'm understanding the general self-isolating in a caravan/camper arguments, but I'm not sure what point you're making here sorry.

That I’d come into less Human contact going away in the van locally than walking to the local shop. It’s a moot point cos am not going anywhere now!

 

[fossyant]

I think I'll start my morning bike commute to the home office tomorrow. Still in shock TBH, but I can get out and away from anyone without touching gates..didn't think of that until I read it.

 

[Brandane]

The Scottish government shouldn't have to officially shut down anything, the whole tourism industry in the Highlands is already almost totally shut down, it is simply impractical to attempt to close beaches here. I'm unaware of any massed gatherings anywhere in the Highlands.
Why should we wait for the setting up of legislation to effect behaviour change? Can we not just accept present advice which is not over demanding anyway?

It would seem that people in our area are incapable of taking heed of advice being given. Time to get the big stick out and close car parks, close roads etc. to stop the selfish 'stards traveling. Link....Local paper report from yesterday.

 

[Mugshot]

That I’d come into less Human contact going away in the van locally than walking to the local shop. It’s a moot point cos am not going anywhere now!

Isn't it the case that you'd be walking to the local shop and going away in the van though?

 

[Fab Foodie]

The Scottish government shouldn't have to officially shut down anything, the whole tourism industry in the Highlands is already almost totally shut down, it is simply impractical to attempt to close beaches here. I'm unaware of any massed gatherings anywhere in the Highlands.
Why should we wait for the setting up of legislation to effect behaviour change? Can we not just accept present advice which is not over demanding anyway?

Well Glen Coe was a ‘massed gathering’ of sorts.
Apart from Mohos, (and this may not be a scottish issue), but Skegness, Whistable, Llanberris pass and am certain many other places were flooded with people yesterday with no hint of separation. There are parties going on and some pubs still open. In Whitstable people (from London primarily) were taking carry-outs and sitting outside on closed pub tables, In contrast to the likes of me, @fossyant @Pale Rider in splendid isolation.
Unfortunately to stop the errant behaviour across the board stricter enforcement will be required.
Not the end of the world, but it’s easy to demonise one group bs another. Let’s stop all tourism and travel like elsewhere. Easy to understand, no ambiguity, fair for all.

 

[Fab Foodie]

Isn't it the case that you'd be walking to the local shop and going away in the van though?

No! That’s the point. I have everything at home that’s needed. No shops, van is fuelled. Fill with water at home and go. No other contact required. Much like fossy and pale rider.

 

[Mugshot]

No! That’s the point. I have everything at home that’s needed. No shops, van is fuelled. Fill with water at home and go. No other contact required. Much like fossy and pale rider.

Ah right, got it
Unfortunately, as you have said, as was evidenced yesterday and will be again today I'm sure, there's far too many that wont. I think people are treating it like a holiday at the moment.

 

[marinyork]

Not the end of the world, but it’s easy to demonise one group bs another. Let’s stop all tourism and travel like elsewhere. Easy to understand, no ambiguity, fair for all.

What's your view on language used? "unnecessary travel" which was what boris has said is problematic. Non-essential is a phrase government documents tend to prefer.

One of the bits the government advise on social distancing still refers to is the 'daily commute'. That needs to go quickly.

 

[marinyork]

Ah right, got it
Unfortunately, as you have said, as was evidenced yesterday and will be again today I'm sure, there's far too many that wont. I think people are treating it like a holiday at the moment.

I think Pale Rider's right, the government will put up with mucking about this weekend and change on Monday. It's a shame those letters to 1.5 million people weren't sent out on Thursday to land on doors Fri/Sat/Mon and getting some people saying to other members of families hey, I've got this letter do you think you guys should be going out as normal?

 

[Fab Foodie]

Ah right, got it
Unfortunately, as you have said, as was evidenced yesterday and will be again today I'm sure, there's far too many that wont. I think people are treating it like a holiday at the moment.

Indeed they do. It’s kinda understandable....

 

[Archie_tect]

My mum is 87. I've stressed to her that she needs to stay at home and not go out.

I keep in touch by phone but have to take her provisions. We've set up an arrangement where I buy the stuff she needs, store it separately for a day or two then take it round and leave it for her.

She really misses the contact as I used to play scrabble once a week and visit most days... she's increasingly saying that she'd rather I called and stayed and is adamant that as she's 87 and had a good life she would rather have my company rather than spend her 'final days', as she puts it, in isolation.

Difficult isn't it? I could pick up the virus and be infectious to her for a week before showing any signs... but it would potentially be too late.