Corona Virus: How Are We Doing?

[classic33]

It’s only GPs that are required to notify. Since no one is going anywhere near their GP, and the vast majority are not testing, it’s only going to be notified if someone ends up in hospital. Contact tracing was a joke at the best of times, and will never be traced back to a pub.

Never said traced back to a pub.

There were people who'd tested positive still going to the pub. With a couldn't care less about anyone else attitude.

 

[lazybloke]

We dont have flu lockdowns or common cold lockdowns or measles lockdowns. Everyone who works or studies or socialises is constantly exposed to all sorts of germs, and we frequently get infected with something or other. It doesn't influence the way we live our lives, we just get on with it and if you catch something then you catch something. Why should the Coronavirus be treated differently to any other infectious illness? It's just another germ.

Covid is treated differently because no-one had immunity and it spread v rapidly. For most it's a mild disease, but it puts enough people in hospital that combined with the rapid spread, it would have overloaded the NHS and caused its collapse had it not been for lockdown and other restrictions. As it was, there's a backlog of several years for ops.

that was the situation in 2020 and to some extent in 2021.
Today, enough people have gained some level of immunity to covid through past infection or through vaccination , that even if there's a spike in infections, there's less demand for NHS services, because it's not as severe any longer. Thus no need for lockdown currently.

In future, this may change, but booster vaccinations will probably keep things under control unless there's a nasty variant that pops up.

Measles -widespread vaccination means fewer deaths. Look back to last century, and there were millions of (global) deaths a year (similar to covid).
Flu- similar.

 

[Alex321]

I've always said it's up to those with a good reason to avoid catching the virus to minimise their exposure to the rest of us. No-one expects everyone else to shut themselves away and take incessant tests just in case they might be carrying any number of other viruses that always circulate around.
We dont have flu lockdowns or common cold lockdowns or measles lockdowns. Everyone who works or studies or socialises is constantly exposed to all sorts of germs, and we frequently get infected with something or other. It doesn't influence the way we live our lives, we just get on with it and if you catch something then you catch something. Why should the Coronavirus be treated differently to any other infectious illness? It's just another germ.

Because the rate of hospitalisations and deaths is far higher for Covid than for most other common illnesses.

 

[Alex321]

Exactly. It came out of a lab maybe by accident or on purpose. Not from a bat in a wet market.

And your evidence for that? Oh, you have just included all the evidence there is in your post.

Not that I'm saying it didn't. There is no more evidence the other way as far as I can see. But neither you nor I have sufficient evidence to have any surety as to how it originated.

Many are receiving compensation claims for damage done by the vaccines. People on here have been mind washed & double downed on all the B.S they’ve been fed.

You are the main person spouting B.S. on here

 

[Milzy]

And your evidence for that? Oh, you have just included all the evidence there is in your post.

Not that I'm saying it didn't. There is no more evidence the other way as far as I can see. But neither you nor I have sufficient evidence to have any surety as to how it originated.




You are the main person spouting B.S. on here

Jesus, how old are you?
We will see.

 

[Ming the Merciless]

Never said traced back to a pub.

There were people who'd tested positive still going to the pub. With a couldn't care less about anyone else attitude.

“It's still a notifiable disease, so how would you feel if they closed any pub that has people in that tested positive.”

How will they close the pub, if it’s never traced back to it?

 

[Pat "5mph"]

Well, having avoided it since the beginning, I have tested positive today.
I think a colleague that I had a non socially distanced chat with on Saturday, infected me, but who knows.
I rode to work as usual this morning, but because I was feeling the chills on a warm day, I did a test before reporting for duty.
I work in a hospital, tests are freely available.
The 2 lines came up within a minute!
Truly, when I was working in hospitality, before the pandemic, I went to work feeling much, much worse than this.
I'm isolating for 5 days, because I wouldn't like to pass the virus on to someone vulnerable.
Thing is, I'm fine, but another person could end up in hospital.
Also, I am getting paid for being off work, but if I pass it to someone that gets really not well, and isn't paid from work for taking time off, this would be socially irresponsible, imo.

 

[wiggydiggy]

Surprised that only a small percentage know someone who has tested positive. Even for those of us who’ve never caught it, we must surely know someone who has?

It’s only GPs that are required to notify. Since no one is going anywhere near their GP, and the vast majority are not testing, it’s only going to be notified if someone ends up in hospital. Contact tracing was a joke at the best of times, and will never be traced back to a pub.

I've voted now, didn't realise I could change it if I needed.

Met my first two time COVID victim recently, no long term effects thankfully but they do work in a hospital so possibly higher risk of catching it.

I'd agree as well testing has gone out the window for many, I'm still testing before visiting some people as their vulnerable and that will never change.

I've personally never tested positive, but I am quite anti social and WFH so probably low risk.

 

[classic33]

“It's still a notifiable disease, so how would you feel if they closed any pub that has people in that tested positive.”

How will they close the pub, if it’s never traced back to it?

I've never come across a self service pub. They nearly all have bar staff, who are just as open to catching it as anyone else. Or are pub staff immune to it, thereby allowing them to continue serving those who want to drink and to hell with everyone else.

 

[wiggydiggy]

I've never come across a self service pub. They nearly all have bar staff, who are just as open to catching it as anyone else. Or are pub staff immune to it, thereby allowing them to continue serving those who want to drink and to hell with everyone else.

Years ago (10+) I did visit a place that had a pump at your table your could use to get beer. IIRC you pre-payed at the bar and your chosen beer was then available for the amount you bought.

I think it's never caught on as UK licensing is strict (supposedly!) on continuing to serve a drunk person alcohol.

 

[Ajax Bay]

Many are receiving compensation claims for damage done by the [COVID-19] vaccines.

Could you share any reports that tell us that? I was unaware of this.

 

[C R]

Could you share any reports that tell us that? I was unaware of this.

I saw a report of a claim yesterday, but just one claim.

 

[wiggydiggy]

I saw a report of a claim yesterday, but just one claim.

This one? https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-tyne-61885899.amp

She is complaining (rightly) about the amount received which I do agree is innadequate, she maintains she is not anti vaccination.

To lose someone 6 days after becoming ill when they were together 20+ years is heartbreaking.

 

[C R]

This one? https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-tyne-61885899.amp

She is complaining (rightly) about the amount received which I do agree is innadequate, she maintains she is not anti vaccination.

To lose someone 6 days after becoming ill when they were together 20+ years is heartbreaking.

That's the one, but it is just one, not the several implied further up thread.

 

[Alex321]

Jesus, how old are you?

Almost certainly a lot older than you.

We will see.

We have seen. You appear to have had your eyes shut for the last 2.5 years.