Corona Virus: How Are We Doing?

[marinyork]

If you don't want to mix with other people, then don't socialise. No-one is forcing you to.
'Spoons has been really busy lately on the normally quiet days because of the half price food incentive. There's been more customers than normal in at times, not less. They have put some sanitisers out (which hardly anyone uses) , track & trace forms (that hardly anyone fills in) and dividing screens up here and there, but most of us just drink with whoever we normally sit with, regardless of any stuff about bubbles and household mixing. People are being sensible when waiting to be served, not crowding at the bar, and generally sticking to their own regular social groups.
There hasn't been any explosion in virus cases and we've been doing that for over five weeks, which tends to suggest a lot of the doom-mongering was just the chattering classes with too much time on their hands to spend pontificating. The fact that the current death figures are low and staying low tells you all you need to know that most of the increase in cases is coming from increased testing, not increased infection rates, and a few dozen deaths per day from one particular cause in a 60+ million population is not even worth talking about. The hysteria and risk aversion surrounding the virus is far worse than the actual virus.

The post was really about the huge variation in places.

Forcing doesn't really have much to do with it. A subtle clue was I went to check out a venue for other people. There was a reason why they didn't do it. I'm fairly relaxed about socialising outdoors, with very small groups of people, especially ones that I judge to be lower risk. Most people I know don't want/can't socialise. If you ask people to go to x they will say they can't travel. Other people don't have the time. Others are very wary of meeting anyone outside their household. Some will just plain tell you they've got used to staying indoors. Some are having a nightmare working from home and are busier or more childcare/other caring commitments.

I have one friend who is socialising pretty much as normal, get invited to a pub on a regular basis and he's getting cheesed off and the invites are slowly dying off. That's it. Nobody else really wants/can socialise much.

Pubs reopened on 3rd July. I would give it another month or so of virus levels staying the same before I feel like you do.

 

[All uphill]

Spare me the pious virtue signalling sermon. I'm well aware thousands have died from the virus and thousands more will die from the virus in the weeks and months to come.
That's the price you pay for having a functioning economy and functioning society, just like car crashes, train crashes, domestic & industrial accidents, idiots getting pissed up and falling in rivers, OD'ing on drugs or any number of other causes of fatalities.
People do risky things that kill them, and people catch things that kill them, of which the coronavirus is just one more thing added to the thousands of other things that already exist. It's what happens in the real world, and has done since the beginning of mankind.

Now I'm going to have "The Miller of Dee" running through my head all day; you know that old song,

"I care for nobody, no not I, and nobody cares for me."

 

[Accy cyclist]

Why am i having to wait nearly 5 months to see someone about my hip/leg?! it's quite serious and will only get worse in those next 4/5 months. Are the 'elderly' being put to the back of the queue?

 

[Rocky]

Why am i having to wait nearly 5 months to see someone about my hip/leg?! it's quite serious and will only get worse in those next 4/5 months. Are the 'elderly' being put to the back of the queue?

My mother who is 88 is getting a nerve block injection on her back next month. She had been waiting for about two months, which seems pretty good to me. Her GP has been great about helping get her seen by the NHS orthopods. I guess it varies by area. I hope you get it fixed soon.

 

[Accy cyclist]

I hope you get it fixed soon.

But it isn't going to be soon! If it gets worse,which it will,i'm going to turn up at A&E and say i can't walk and see what they say.

 

[vickster]

Why am i having to wait nearly 5 months to see someone about my hip/leg?! it's quite serious and will only get worse in those next 4/5 months. Are the 'elderly' being put to the back of the queue?

Because there are a lot of people who should have been seen over the last 4 or 5 months who are now ahead of you in the queue and your case hasn’t been judged as urgent (what has been diagnosed? Arthritis?)

Simply, the backlog has to be cleared before new referrals are seen.

You could go private if concerned (depending on your finances and principles)

 

[Slick]

But it isn't going to be soon! If it gets worse,which it will,i'm going to turn up at A&E and say i can't walk and see what they say.

Take a couple of pain killers like everyone else and see your gp in the morning.

 

[Accy cyclist]

Because there are a lot of people who should have been seen over the last 4 or 5 months who are now ahead of you in the queue and your case hasn’t been judged as urgent (what has been diagnosed? Arthritis?)

Simply, the backlog has to be cleared before new referrals are seen.

You could go private if concerned (depending on your finances and principles)

No i ain't going private!! 300 quid for some berk to tell me what i already know. It isn't arthritis by the way. The GP said so after my X-ray results came back.

 

[vickster]

No i ain't going private!! 300 quid for some berk to tell me what i already know. It isn't arthritis by the way. The GP said so after my X-ray results came back.

Go to A&E. shouldn’t be as busy if you avoid weekend peak times.

what is it you already know?

 

[Accy cyclist]

Take a couple of pain killers like everyone else and see your gp in the morning.

Painkillers only mask what could be a serious problem. GP in the morning...fat chance of that happening!

 

[Accy cyclist]

Go to A&E. shouldn’t be as busy if you avoid weekend peak times.

what is it you already know?

Yes,like i said earlier,that's where i'll be heading if it gets worse. I've emailed Age Concern about it. Maybe they can help.

 

[MrGrumpy]

Spare me the pious virtue signalling sermon. I'm well aware thousands have died from the virus and thousands more will die from the virus in the weeks and months to come.
That's the price you pay for having a functioning economy and functioning society, just like car crashes, train crashes, domestic & industrial accidents

I’m sure the families of the bereaved following that train crash in Aberdeen this last week would be comforted by that comment. Do you think it’s acceptable to go to work and never return ?? It’s not the price to pay for a functioning economy far from it !!!

 

[winjim]

What do you suppose is an acceptable number of deaths?


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[C R]

What do you suppose is an acceptable number of deaths?


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I don't suppose they really care how many deaths, so long as it doesn't affect them.

 

[winjim]

I don't suppose they really care how many deaths, so long as it doesn't affect them.

Oh, it's a literal death cult.


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