California wild fires

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Gillstay

Veteran
It's eminently doable, but extremely labour intensive and thus very, very expensive.

The number one thing we can do is reduce the tinder and fuel available for fires to get started or continue to burn. Reduction can be accomplished by:

  • Clearing the forest floor from brush, shrubs, and fallen trees.
    This reduces the fuel available to the fire and decreases the intensity, making it easier to fight.
  • Increasing the height of the canopy.
    The process of eliminating smaller trees that will ignite and act as an elevator to the large canopy will help prevent larger trees from igniting.
  • Eliminating smaller trees and branches.
    These are fuels that can carry a ground fire all the way from the forest floor to the top of the trees.
  • Systematically removing large trees.
    This reduces overlap of branches and the ability to transfer fire from tree to tree. Thinning can be conducted in an eco-friendly way that still maintains clusters of trees and is favorable to wildlife and habitats.
Clearing underbrush from the forest floor, thinning small trees, and maintaining large trees to prevent the spread of fire to the canopy is a sizeable project - in which you'll need mechanical assistance

So perhaps the permatanned loon was on to something, albeit a very expensive something. That said, probably a lot less expensive than the damage caused in this conflagration. When weighed against the cost of rebuilding it has turned out to be sage advice - far more than mere vague opinion.

No, because you cannot do it when you have very high temperatures so cannot do controlled burns, or your in a built up area which is where they are. Trump is neither forestry or fire trained. Hence his is only an opinion and who to say he said it anyway.
 

Badger_Boom

Veteran
Location
York
It dies seem odd that they have forest (which in the climate can be very dry) right up close to the city.
They ought to have a buffer zone perhaps 5 miles surely??

Apparently there used to be buffer zones but they were gradually filled by people who wanted to live in what passes for the countryside.
 

Baldy

Veteran
Location
ALVA
You're valuing those 50 houses at $200k then? (I assume sell (when intact) for rather more.)
I guess the rebuilding costs might be of that order (as opposed to the house prices).

Said on the news today, the average house price in the palisade area is around 2 million dollars, may had no insurance due to it being a fire area. I can't imagine have a mortgage that big without insurance.
 

Beebo

Firm and Fruity
Location
Hexleybeef
Said on the news today, the average house price in the palisade area is around 2 million dollars, may had no insurance due to it being a fire area. I can't imagine have a mortgage that big without insurance.

Insurance is for the rebuilding cost. House value doesn’t come in to it. You only insure the home not the value of the land itself.

In the uk you have the anomaly that a £3m house in London can be insured for £500k. Whilst a listed farm house in Scotland worth £500k would need to be insured for more than it is actually worth.
 

Marchrider

Well-Known Member
Insurance is for the rebuilding cost. House value doesn’t come in to it. You only insure the home not the value of the land itself.

In the uk you have the anomaly that a £3m house in London can be insured for £500k. Whilst a listed farm house in Scotland worth £500k would need to be insured for more than it is actually worth.

we had a listed town centre commercial property, worth about a 100k - had to be insured for 1.2m (and that was 8 years ago)
 

Milzy

Guru
Wonder who started the fire? 🧐🤔
 
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