bonj said:in other words what i'm trying to say, is, I'm sure a £77 frame off ebay is absolutely fine, and makes a great bike, but what's the point in replacing one cheap frame with another cheap frame?
roadiewill said:My point being is that it is easy to get carried away with bikes, and surely, if the rider isnt fit enough, whats the pont in having a real expensive bike. It makes more sense to buy a cheaper bike, save some money, and get fitter yourself - at no cost at all!
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and how do you define fit "enough" to have an expensive bike?roadiewill said:Just discovered this thread, and as Im new to road biking I thought Id comment. Having uprgraded my MTB with pretty much everything, I was not at all suprised at how much people will pay for road bikes - just to shave grams off of the weight. So, I started saving for my road bike a couple of months back, and as the money slowly (very slowly) began to pile up, I began to look more and more at higher models than my orignal bike that I was looking at - some low end decathalon. You end up thinking 'if I just save another £80 I can have that groupset instead of that one', and soon my budget increased dramatically (more than £300). However, I am only 16 with a weekend job that doesnt really create much dough. So, after much thought, I am going to stick with the giant scr 4 as it is within an achievable distance. Who cares if it only 2200 and for an estra 100 quid I could have Tiagra? It is still the same weight as the entire SCR range (which was suprising) and, when I get it, it'll be just as fast as the SCR1. My point being is that it is easy to get carried away with bikes, and surely, if the rider isnt fit enough, whats the pont in having a real expensive bike. It makes more sense to buy a cheaper bike, save some money, and get fitter yourself - at no cost at all!
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alecstilleyedye said:ah, but do you really want to be an unfit fatty on a pinarello prince, looking like an absolute berk with more money than sense? all the gear, no idea springs to mind.
Over The Hill said:Steve- When did you take my photo!
I bet he cant see what gear he is in.
On the cheap bike debate....
Being fairly new to this I do not have the experience to debate this part against that, but I my two penne'th is when you talk cheap bike / expensive bike you are looking at new compared with new.
I got what I would consider a good bike ( A Felt f85 if you all want to pick me apart) I think it was a good £500 plus bike new but I got it for a little over £100 second hand.
Bikes are very hardy and can really last a long time, problems are fairly obvious (when compared to a second hand car for example).
Good things are a pleasure to use and make the whole experience good. I see little downside in buying a second hand bike. This seems to be the best of both words in that it is quality at the right price.
Generally they will cost you nothing as once they are second hand you can sell it on for what you bought it for if you have saved up for the new one.
bonj said:if i was a rich fatty i'd rather be a rich fatty on a pinarello prince than a rich fatty on a rusty old shitter like a puch clubman or something equally shoot.
and since when has being fat equated to "no idea"?