Blood Pressure

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The Jogger

Legendary Member
Location
Spain
Bill Gates said:
Just been to the GP and he agrees with me that the combination of high pulse pressure and low HR is an indication of large stroke volume. He took 2 x readings of my blood pressure and the first one was 162/78 (quite high, pulse pressure 84) and HR was 46; 2nd was 142/78 (pulse pressure 64) and HR was 45.

Oh and another thing which was amazing he agreed that I didn't need to take any statins!!!:evil:

They don't normally measure small/large particled of LDL but he is going to make enquiries to see if they can do it for me. Stunned really, quite a good bloke.

Sorry Bill, when I first read your post I was reading High Stroke Volume as high risk. I have similar stats to you RHR 48 Pulse Pressure normally just under 60

I'm hoping I was wrong.
 

jimboalee

New Member
Location
Solihull
Garz said:
Very modest jim! :biggrin:

What we'll do is come round to your house, glue a Schrader valve into your Aorta and pump you up to 190mmHg.

Then we'll shove a scope up your nose and wait for your blood to obscure the lens.

:sad:
 

earth

Well-Known Member
Bill Gates said:
Just been to the GP and he agrees with me that the combination of high pulse pressure and low HR is an indication of large stroke volume. He took 2 x readings of my blood pressure and the first one was 162/78 (quite high, pulse pressure 84) and HR was 46; 2nd was 142/78 (pulse pressure 64) and HR was 45.

Oh and another thing which was amazing he agreed that I didn't need to take any statins!!!;)

They don't normally measure small/large particled of LDL but he is going to make enquiries to see if they can do it for me. Stunned really, quite a good bloke.


I couldn't make it through all 4 pages before having to post a reply to this.

A friend of mine is on Statins and swears by them. Personally I think he should quit smoking, drink less and take some exercise. But he's lazy. He has one of the blood pressure meters and every Christmas at his house we all take turns testing our blood pressure. It's like a party game.

Anyway, my systolic and diastolic readings are about average but I have a consistently high heart rate. I wore my polar heart rate monitor all night and the average was about 74 bpm. I can't get my heart rate down as low as some people on here even when asleep and I can't get much more relaxed than that! So that means I must have a low stroke volume. This has always been my belief.

My hypothesis is that if a person has a small heart then it will have to pump more frequently to move the required volume of blood. I've heard that a persons heart is roughly the size of their clenched fist and mine is a bit small so it adds up.

But what does that mean for my overall longevity?
 

Garz

Squat Member
Location
Down
jimboalee said:
What we'll do is come round to your house, glue a Schrader valve into your Aorta and pump you up to 190mmHg.

Then we'll shove a scope up your nose and wait for your blood to obscure the lens.

:biggrin:


LMAO like it!
 
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Bill Gates

Bill Gates

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Location
West Sussex
earth said:
A friend of mine is on Statins and swears by them. Personally I think he should quit smoking, drink less and take some exercise. But he's lazy.

I swear at them. On the other hand if you don't do any exercise then the muscles including the heart (biggest muscle of the lot), aren't at risk from the side effects


earth said:
He has one of the blood pressure meters and every Christmas at his house we all take turns testing our blood pressure. It's like a party game.

Highest wins? :biggrin:


earth said:
Anyway, my systolic and diastolic readings are about average but I have a consistently high heart rate. I wore my polar heart rate monitor all night and the average was about 74 bpm. I can't get my heart rate down as low as some people on here even when asleep and I can't get much more relaxed than that! So that means I must have a low stroke volume. This has always been my belief.

Your resting HR is high by most cyclists' standards. In theory the more hours in the saddle you can manage then the fitter you get and the lower your RHR. How much cycling do you do and how hard do you ride?

earth said:
My hypothesis is that if a person has a small heart then it will have to pump more frequently to move the required volume of blood. I've heard that a persons heart is roughly the size of their clenched fist and mine is a bit small so it adds up.

But what does that mean for my overall longevity?

Cyclists tend to have a larger heart than most other sports.

I thought that the old wives tale about hand size was that something else was related to them in size. I say it's an old wives tale because my hands are relatively small but I pack a huge punch. :blush:
 

Trek Trauma Chris

New Member
Location
Cornwall
It is my understanding having read and asked G.P'S and Specialist's, that High Blood Pressure (under "normal" conditions ie, no other problems like myself) will probably not affect you until your later years, but what it does do right from the word go is to start and make the arteries brittle, then later on in life when they have weakened and your pressure rises one day, BANG! a stroke. In your arm, leg or wherever if your pressure goes high then these areas can expand to compensate, but your brain is trapped inside your skull and cannot do this so something has to blow and hence you bleed or stroke. The medication you are prescribed is to help the arteries remain supple, keep pressures under control and if there is an underlying problem help that too. A little story! When I injured a shoulder weight training I had to see a specialist for a cortisone injection. He asked how I injured the shoulder and I told him weight lifting, he replied "weight lifting, how old are you, 47, get yourself down to the pub instead" when I replied that I had raised blood pressure, so any excess drinking raises blood pressure, he asked what my reading was and I said 140/90 on a good day, his actual words to me were "keep the low reading bellow a 100 and you will not have any problems".
I have also read that as you exercise, your heart being a muscle will grow in size to accommodate your exercise levels, whether this is good or bad I do not know.
 

ColinJ

Puzzle game procrastinator!
Trek Trauma Chris said:
When I injured a shoulder weight training I had to see a specialist for a cortisone injection. He asked how I injured the shoulder and I told him weight lifting, he replied "weight lifting, how old are you, 47, get yourself down to the pub instead".
I'd ask to see a different specialist if one gave me advice like that!
 
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Bill Gates

Bill Gates

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Location
West Sussex
Trek Trauma Chris said:
It is my understanding having read and asked G.P'S and Specialist's, that High Blood Pressure (under "normal" conditions ie, no other problems like myself) will probably not affect you until your later years, but what it does do right from the word go is to start and make the arteries brittle, then later on in life when they have weakened and your pressure rises one day, BANG! a stroke. In your arm, leg or wherever if your pressure goes high then these areas can expand to compensate, but your brain is trapped inside your skull and cannot do this so something has to blow and hence you bleed or stroke. The medication you are prescribed is to help the arteries remain supple, keep pressures under control and if there is an underlying problem help that too. A little story! When I injured a shoulder weight training I had to see a specialist for a cortisone injection. He asked how I injured the shoulder and I told him weight lifting, he replied "weight lifting, how old are you, 47, get yourself down to the pub instead" when I replied that I had raised blood pressure, so any excess drinking raises blood pressure, he asked what my reading was and I said 140/90 on a good day, his actual words to me were "keep the low reading bellow a 100 and you will not have any problems".
I have also read that as you exercise, your heart being a muscle will grow in size to accommodate your exercise levels, whether this is good or bad I do not know.

I didn't know there was such medication. What is it called?

........and could I respectfully ask that your posts are set out the same as everyone else. In other words other than in one large complete splurge without line breaks or spaces between all the sentences.;)
 

Trek Trauma Chris

New Member
Location
Cornwall
Bill Gates said:
I didn't know there was such medication. What is it called?

........and could I respectfully ask that your posts are set out the same as everyone else. In other words other than in one large complete splurge without line breaks or spaces between all the sentences.:blush:[/QUOTE

Different medication's Bill.
 

ColinJ

Puzzle game procrastinator!
Trek Trauma Chris said:
He was the most down to earth bloke, who gave common sense advice I have ever met.
Well I wouldn't consider the implied "You're how old - 47 - that's far too old to do anything energetic so give up before you kill yourself!" good advice.

As for proposing spending more time in pubs...

I think "You aren't getting any younger so any injuries will take longer to heal. For heaven's sake, find yourself a good fitness trainer who will show you how to lift weights safely" would be more like it.

I've had riders in their late 70s ride away from me in hilly 200 km audax rides in the Yorkshire Dales and I know what they would say if a specialist told them that they should have given up 30 years earlier and spent more time down the boozer!

I'm 54 and I know that I haven't peaked yet... ;)
 

jimboalee

New Member
Location
Solihull
Bill Gates said:
I didn't know there was such medication. What is it called?

........and could I respectfully ask that your posts are set out the same as everyone else. In other words other than in one large complete splurge without line breaks or spaces between all the sentences.:rolleyes:

It's not 'medication'. It's a healthy diet.
 
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