Googlink riding position for bikes came up with , with your pedals horizontal thier should be a verticle line between your knee and the pedal spindal.
your handle bars should be 2-4" lower than your seat and your arms should be at 45degrees from the handlebar. (on the bar in line with the top of the stem not the bottom of the drops)
I can,t acheive this , my handlebars and seat are at the same level. could be my bike frames not right for me.
or I need to replace my arms and legs with longer ones
since riding with pedal clips, which makes you feel like your riding in high heels, your up on your toes all the time (my calf muscles will get used to it no matter how much it hurtsand my bum keeps falling off the back of the seat - hence all this re-evaluating my riding position after 14years of no problems.
thier probably is something to this measuring with your body , elbow fingertip seat edge stem, armpit finger tip pedals stuff as are boby shape grows in proportion, yes thiers 3 types of body shape and that changes proportions but as a general rule its probably right.