BentMikey and a Subaru Driver

[just jim]

Skwerl - I can't see this happening at all. It's not politically expedient to tax a mode of transport which ticks so many right-on boxes.

 

[CharlieB]

Sorry, found this thread quite late, and found it quite distressing.
D4N OK???
W4N K3R, more like.

 

[PBancroft]

LOL

Anyway how come you are here hiding behind your keyboard? I thought a big hard man like you would be out doling out justice to the evil car drivers by midday any day of the week, but especially on a nice summer's day like today

Why don't you answer any questions yourself?

Regarding accidents, even if it is inevitable does it make it OK for those accidents to occur? Does it mean we should accept that accidents will happen, and allow the people who caused them to carry on their way? Does it mean that the friends and family of the 9 people who die each day on the roads in this country alone should accept that this was inevitable?

Does that mean that the people who caused them should be able to walk away without punishment?

What about the people who cause injuries? Should they be allowed to walk away without caution, without retraining, without penalty and potentially cause a much more serious accident in future?

 

[ComedyPilot]

And the vehicle drivers aside, shouldn't the government in this green day and age (and high unemployment) be implementing better cycling facilities - along the lines of Holland and Germany? It's not as if they don't get enough (road) taxes?

 

[BentMikey]

Just passed D4N OK on my way into Bromley in the car. He was going far too fast yet again.

 

[hackbike 666]

Hello again BM and welcome back.

BTW im posting and soon to be cycling in Bangkok.

 

[PBancroft]

Just passed D4N OK on my way into Bromley in the car. He was going far too fast yet again.

YOU passed HIM, but he was going too fast?

Bloody speeding cyclists.

 

[CharlieB]

YOU passed HIM, but he was going too fast?

Bloody speeding cyclists.

In the opposite direction, perchance?

 

[BentMikey]

In the opposite direction, perchance?

LOL, yes, that's it.

 

[Mark T]

Bit of a mistake getting such a memorable number plate if he's going to drive around drawing attention to himself, isn't it?

Although I presume the police haven't got in touch with him yet. Hehe.

 

[ufkacbln]

Nah, sorry you are clutching at straws there. A registration plate is a far easier way to identify a vehicle and subsequently the driver than noting down the make of a bike and how a rider looks etc. and you know it.

I know it wouldn't stop red light jumping or any other bad behaviour to any great degree, but it might just help in those extreme cases when a cyclist does something really bad (and yes it can and does happen) just the same way it does when a nutter behind the wheel of car does something really stupid... which leads us nicely back to Dan in his Subaru.

Wthout the plate the police have no chance of apprehending him...

Unless you have a "Road Safety rganisation" like SafeSpeed that advocated changing your plate and claiming you were dyslexic, or that "local kids changed it and ran way"

Also lets not forget the thousands of "prat plates" (like DAN) or those with unreadable writing, altered spacing or reflective coatings that are supposed to be unrecordable, or unrecognised by ANPR etc.

Number plates as an effective recognition tool require a greater degree of enforcement and are frequently and deliberately flouted by motorists - as in the same way the bad cyclists would be finding ways to avoid recognition.

 

[ufkacbln]

Skwerl - I can't see this happening at all. It's not politically expedient to tax a mode of transport which ticks so many right-on boxes.

Slightly OT ... but the level of taxation on cycles is one area where there is full equality with powered vehicles. Assessed by the same criteria we are in Class A (VED) and all cyclists pay the tariff in full!

 

[f1_fan]

Why don't you answer any questions yourself?

Regarding accidents, even if it is inevitable does it make it OK for those accidents to occur? Does it mean we should accept that accidents will happen, and allow the people who caused them to carry on their way? Does it mean that the friends and family of the 9 people who die each day on the roads in this country alone should accept that this was inevitable?

Does that mean that the people who caused them should be able to walk away without punishment?

What about the people who cause injuries? Should they be allowed to walk away without caution, without retraining, without penalty and potentially cause a much more serious accident in future?

Kaipaith, been busy working so only just got back here.

Anyway, post 261 mate. I quote you saying much the same as above and say I agree with what you wrote there so why don't YOU read the bloody thread

I am all for retraining, education, justice for those guilty of causing an accident through negligence or sheer stupidity etc. etc. BUT I still say that there will always be a certain number of accidents simply becuase humans are fallible and will always make mistakes.

 

[PBancroft]

Kaipaith, been busy working so only just got back here.

Anyway, post 261 mate. I quote you saying much the same as above and say I agree with what you wrote there so why don't YOU read the bloody thread

I am all for retraining, education, justice for those guilty of causing an accident through negligence or sheer stupidity etc. etc. BUT I still say that there will always be a certain number of accidents simply becuase humans are fallible and will always make mistakes.

I did read that post - this was the reply to it. You say that a certain number of accidents are inevitable and should be accepted.

That is not OK - the post was to question whether you thought it was, which thus far (until the above) you haven't said.

 

[just jim]

Slightly OT ... but the level of taxation on cycles is one area where there is full equality with powered vehicles. Assessed by the same criteria we are in Class A (VED) and all cyclists pay the tariff in full!

Yes, I should know this by now...I've even rehearsed it as part of my slightly convoluted response to the "You don't pay road tax" accusation.