Beer?

[jongooligan]

I went down my local pub last night. I had a pint of Rudgate Ruby Mild. This beer has been on for a while,but i didn't expect it to taste like it did. No,i'm not praising it. It tasted like a pint of vinegar. So much so that i bet you could've pickled onions in it. I'm not blaming the brewers at all,more the pub's owners for selling way past its best beer.And to put the cap on it,all draught beers in the pub are going up 10p a pint.

Hope you took it back. Too many people don't.
Suppose there's such a fine margin in pubs these days that many landlords will try it on as long as nobody complains.

 

[deptfordmarmoset]

Yes, but why? Hops aren't exactly difficult to grow.

(Yes, I know - for the intellectual challenge - but the applications seem limited)

The article seemed to cite less need for water than hops. Perhaps it's relevant that the research was done in California where there is pressure on water resources. This is not a problem further north on the west coast, where Washington and Oregon have been doing rather well developing new hop varieties.

 

[srw]

The article seemed to cite less need for water than hops. Perhaps it's relevant that the research was done in California where there is pressure on water resources. This is not a problem further north on the west coast, where Washington and Oregon have been doing rather well developing new hop varieties.

One of the highlighted reader comments in yesterday's Guardian pointed out that hop-growing in the UK needs almost no irrigation - I'd guess the same is true for the hop fields of Belgium, Northern France and the Netherlands. It's also quite a high-yield crop per acre, and the raw material, with a limited amount of the sort of processing that it needs to undergo anyway (drying, crushing) is easy to transport.

All of which suggests that a more sustainable way of reducing the impact of water shortages on the hop fields of California or southern Europe would be to grow the hops somewhere else.

 

[Accy cyclist]

Hope you took it back. Too many people don't.
Suppose there's such a fine margin in pubs these days that many landlords will try it on as long as nobody complains.

No,i didn't bother. I was only going to have a couple,but i just had one after the Sarsons vinegar experience. I could've taken it back, but for all the hassle and name calling it'd cause it wasn't worth it for £2.70. If i was going to have another pint it would've been hard to find one, as all the other "real ales" were very pale citrusy ones. To me they taste like a cross between lemonade and mouthwash. With the beer going up to £2.80 a pint,i'll be having even less in there now. Once of a day i would've spent most of the night in there and had 4 or 5 pints,but a now limited budget means i have other financial priorities.

 

[MossCommuter]

No,i didn't bother. I was only going to have a couple,but i just had one after the Sarsons vinegar experience. I could've taken it back, but for all the hassle and name calling it'd cause it wasn't worth it for £2.70. If i was going to have another pint it would've been hard to find one, as all the other "real ales" were very pale citrusy ones. To me they taste like a cross between lemonade and mouthwash. With the beer going up to £2.80 a pint,i'll be having even less in there now. Once of a day i would've spent most of the night in there and had 4 or 5 pints,but a now limited budget means i have other financial priorities.

You get hassle and name calling for taking bad beer back? Where are you drinking? The 1980's?

There's a Spoons in Accrington, Accy; Spoons never quibble at someone returning a pint, they always grant requests for a try-before-you-buy and I'll hazard a guess that their beer is less than £2.80 a pint (and if your preference is for best bitter, there is usually Ruddles and that will be even cheaper).

 

[Accy cyclist]

You get hassle and name calling for taking bad beer back? Where are you drinking? The 1980's?

There's a Spoons in Accrington, Accy; Spoons never quibble at someone returning a pint, they always grant requests for a try-before-you-buy and I'll hazard a guess that their beer is less than £2.80 a pint (and if your preference is for best bitter, there is usually Ruddles and that will be even cheaper).

Well,maybe it's not that bad but with being a regular they seem to expect you to know the pub's struggling a bit financially and therefore not ask for something that'll lessen their profit margin even more. As for Wetherspoons,yes i know of quite a few who go in there,but i don't live in Accrington(I live in the borough of Hyndburn which has Accy as its capital). I live 4 miles from the town centre of Accy,where the Wetherspoons is.They were going to open one up here in Great Harwood,in a closed down Nat West bank,but they didn't get planning permission.

 

[MossCommuter]

Well,maybe it's not that bad but with being a regular they seem to expect you to know the pub's struggling a bit financially and therefore not ask for something that'll lessen their profit margin even more. As for Wetherspoons,yes i know of quite a few who go in there,but i don't live in Accrington(I live in the borough of Hyndburn which has Accy as its capital). I live 4 miles from the town centre of Accy,where the Wetherspoons is.They were going to open one up here in Great Harwood,in a closed down Nat West bank,but they didn't get planning permission.

Let 'em go bust

 

[deptfordmarmoset]

Well,maybe it's not that bad but with being a regular they seem to expect you to know the pub's struggling a bit financially and therefore not ask for something that'll lessen their profit margin even more. As for Wetherspoons,yes i know of quite a few who go in there,but i don't live in Accrington(I live in the borough of Hyndburn which has Accy as its capital). I live 4 miles from the town centre of Accy,where the Wetherspoons is.They were going to open one up here in Great Harwood,in a closed down Nat West bank,but they didn't get planning permission.

A pub that's happy to sell bad beer should be allowed to go to the wall.

 

[Accy cyclist]

A pub that's happy to sell bad beer should be allowed to go to the wall.

I don't think they do it intentionally. The "real ale" section has gone down a bit,since the previous landlady left 18 months ago. She had some CAMRA drinkers in,advising her how to look after her beer. Now the pub( http://www.great-harwood.org.uk/about/Places/Buildings/Pubs/Victoria.htm) tends to sell more lager and cider,and it also sells quite a lot of those fruity gins that are popular at the moment.

 

[theclaud]

(Of course using less hop is an alternative approach...)

 

[Daddy Pig]

Chilean IPA... needs more aroma hops imho, all I get is a golden ale with a bitter hit on the finish.

 

[MossCommuter]

You saw the beers we had at our bottle share. It was a progression rather than a theme. We were given them in the right order, IMHO (not the order the came out in the collage).

If you were to hold a themed bottle share in June, what would your theme be?

 

[Daddy Pig]

You saw the beers we had at our bottle share. It was a progression rather than a theme. We were given them in the right order, IMHO (not the order the came out in the collage).

If you were to hold a themed bottle share in June, what would your theme be?

I’d probably call it the Great British Summer.... I’d line up loads of winter beers to fit in with the sh1te weather...

 

[deptfordmarmoset]

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If you were to hold a themed bottle share in June, what would your theme be?

Beer?

 

[User169]

You saw the beers we had at our bottle share. It was a progression rather than a theme. We were given them in the right order, IMHO (not the order the came out in the collage).

If you were to hold a themed bottle share in June, what would your theme be?

Beer with grapes in..

https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2018/mar/22/grape-beer-beer-wine-hybrid-trend-brewing

(I think the Graun is deliberately trying to inflame the BBB brigade this week!)