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[apollo179]

In your opinion.

No - based on the op.

 

[Norm]

So its ok for a slow person to ride slowly but all fast riders must ride fast even if they want to ride slow ?

That depends on the reasons. If someone was in recovery stage of interval training, then that wouldn't be an issue for me, similarly if someone was riding with kids or on a poor road surface.

However, if someone is slowing down to do something which has been proven for motorised road users to be more dangerous than drink driving, or travelling slowly because they were exercising their dog or carrying an unsafe load then that would be frustrating (as I said earlier) whatever their chosen mode of transport.

The fact that this was a cyclist is not the issue for me and maybe others could consider how they'd feel if the person wasn't on a bike. What if it was a tractor driving slowly as their load wasn't safe? What if it was a pick up truck doing 5mph because the driver's family were having a picnic in the flatbed?

Ride up behind a steam engine doing 5mph and all is well with the world. Ride up behind a car doing 5mph because the driver doesn't give a toss about other road users and you'll get frustrated.

IMO.

 

[Noodley]

However, if someone is slowing down to do something which has been proven for motorised road users to be more dangerous than drink driving,

Yes, for motorised transport - that is why it is illegal to do it in motorised transport.

And as for the last bit, you have included things in your examples about not being safe - where in the OP is that mentioned? The issue is the cyclist was going slow. End of.
Not unsafe loads or picnicing families. Speed. That is all.

And where do you get these powers to tell the reason a cyclist is travelling slowly? Can't remember ever being able to say for sure that a cyclist was going slowly as they had been doing intervals or were just going slow.

 

[david k]

Yes, cycling slowly. And that's what resulted in a tailback. It's part of being a courteous road user to accept others' right to use the road, at whatever speed that may be at.

The bit about being on drops, and phoning is trying to dress it up as something it was not. All it was is a cyclist travelling slowly, the fact that he was on his phone does not matter - what if he had been travelling quickly and on his phone?

i think people seeing him on his phone would look arrogant to others

 

[twobiker]

Yes, cycling slowly. And that's what resulted in a tailback. It's part of being a courteous road user to accept others' right to use the road, at whatever speed that may be at.

The bit about being on drops, and phoning is trying to dress it up as something it was not. All it was is a cyclist travelling slowly, the fact that he was on his phone does not matter - what if he had been travelling quickly and on his phone?

I do not need to dress it up, he had one hand on the drops, his left hand ,in his right hand he had a phone, if he had been travelling quickly he would not have had a queue of cars behind him,and as the road is flat he would have had two hands on the drops, unless you can pedal fast with one hand ,if he was just riding slowly and had any sense the first chance he got he would have pulled over and let the cars go, he did neither. I have just been for a ride, I stopped to let some cars go past, so what, no big deal, no loss of face, but a nod and a toot of thanks from the motorist, better than a close pass and verbal abuse , not every situation requires confrontation.plenty of stories on the forums about that.

 

[david k]

his attitude appears arrogant to other drivers, maybe riders have more sympathy?

 

[youngoldbloke]

The important point is that he was using his phone - and therefore probably not paying FULL attention to the road. We don't know whether he was weaving around or whatever, but it is possible that the fact that he was using a phone and cycling one handed MAY have lent a certain unpredicability to his progress, reflected in an unwillingness to overtake by those following.

 

[Norm]

And as for the last bit, you have included things in your examples about not being safe - where in the OP is that mentioned? The issue is the cyclist was going slow. End of.
Not unsafe loads or picnicing families. Speed. That is all.

Sorry, I was just trying to make it easier for you to imagine a similar scenario without your cyclist blinkers, Noods.

Your posts (for instance suggesting there is no safety issue cycling when on the phone) suggest a level of intransigence which is beyond reason.

I'll leave you to it.

 

[Noodley]

I still fail to see why his action reflects on ALL cyclists and not just him.

 

[4F]

I still fail to see why his action reflects on ALL cyclists and not just him.

No its only slow cyclists, if he had been going fast it would have been OK

 

[Norm]

No its only slow cyclists, if he had been going fast it would have been OK

Repeating yourself now, 4F?

 

[youngoldbloke]

I still fail to see why his action reflects on ALL cyclists and not just him.

When we know the answer we can all live happily together for ever and ever .......... it is called irrational prejudice isn't it?

 

[freecyclist]

Yes, for motorised transport - that is why it is illegal to do it in motorised transport.

And as for the last bit, you have included things in your examples about not being safe - where in the OP is that mentioned? The issue is the cyclist was going slow. End of.
Not unsafe loads or picnicing families. Speed. That is all.

And where do you get these powers to tell the reason a cyclist is travelling slowly? Can't remember ever being able to say for sure that a cyclist was going slowly as they had been doing intervals or were just going slow.

That is not all.
Do you really not get the concept of basic courtesy.

 

[mickle]

The important point is that he was using his phone - and therefore probably not paying FULL attention to the road. We don't know whether he was weaving around or whatever, but it is possible that the fact that he was using a phone and cycling one handed MAY have lent a certain unpredicability to his progress, reflected in an unwillingness to overtake by those following.

Mobile phone use whilst riding a pedal cycle is not illegal. So this fact can be discounted as irrelevant.

 

[david k]

illegal or not, its arrogant when there a line of motorists at least it will appear that way