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[apollo179]

You're not getting this are you?

Can you explain what it is about the cyclists behaviour you are upset about?

That he was slow, or on the phone, or 'caused a tailback'?

If I had been one of the motorists in the tailback I would not have been peed off at being slowed down, any more than I would have been peed off if some driver had behaved in a manner resulting in me being slowed. There is nothing in the OP to say he was cycling in a manner which was likely to cause danger. The only 'sin' is going slow, the part about him being on a phone or being in 'all the gear' and 'on the drops' is dressing it up to make it sound like something else is at play.

Now you are guilty of assuming.

 

[Noodley]

Now you are guilty of assuming.

Not at all, if there was anything to it then I am sure the OP would have said "waving dangerously over the road" or similar - that the OP laid out the circumstances as "going slowly" clearly indicates that this alone was the "problem" for the drivers. There is also the assumption that all the drivers were gonna be pissed off - as I said had I been in the line of cars I would not have been pissed off. So perhaps the OP would have been better saying "I was pissed off" rather than transferring his thoughts onto each driver in the line.

 

[apollo179]

Not at all, if there was anything to it then I am sure the OP would have said "waving dangerously over the road" or similar - that the OP laid out the circumstances as "going slowly" clearly indicates that this alone was the "problem" for the drivers. There is also the assumption that all the drivers were gonna be pissed off - as I said had I been in the line of cars I would not have been pissed off. So perhaps the OP would have been better saying "I was pissed off" rather than transferring his thoughts onto each driver in the line.

You are second guessing the op. We can only rely on the ops interpretation , which is that he was cycling one handed, on the drops,slowly, and dialing on his mobile phone causing a tailback of peed off motorists.
You might profess to not getting pixxed off but not all motorists are as patient as you clearly are.

 

[John the Monkey]

The answer depends on the circumstances, it is easy to find these things out if you are interested rather than remaining ignorant and making assumptions that you know stuff.

Hello Noodley, I think you have forgotten that you're on the internets. Best, JtM.

 

[Noodley]

You are second guessing the op. We can only rely on the ops interpretation , which is that he was cycling one handed, on the drops,slowly, and dialing on his mobile phone causing a tailback of peed off motorists.
You might profess to not getting pixxed off but not all motorists are as patient as you clearly are.

Yes, cycling slowly. And that's what resulted in a tailback. It's part of being a courteous road user to accept others' right to use the road, at whatever speed that may be at.

The bit about being on drops, and phoning is trying to dress it up as something it was not. All it was is a cyclist travelling slowly, the fact that he was on his phone does not matter - what if he had been travelling quickly and on his phone?

 

[apollo179]

Yes, cycling slowly. And that's what resulted in a tailback. It's part of being a courteous road user to accept others' right to use the road, at whatever speed that may be at.

The bit about being on drops, and phoning is trying to dress it up as something it was not. All it was is a cyclist travelling slowly, the fact that he was on his phone does not matter - what if he had been travelling quickly and on his phone?

We are dependant on the ops relating of events.
If you want to second guess and reinterpret things for your own ends then thats up to you.
Its like if someone reports a gang of youths attacking an old granny and then asking "are you sure they wernt just playing with her". No for bejeezuses sake the on the ground report we have is that they were attacking her . So until we hear otherwise we should proceed on that basis. Imho.

 

[4F]

Incorrect.
Try and understand that legality and courtesy/consideration are two different things.
It may be legal to cycle one handed, on the drops,slowly, and dialing on mobile phone causing a tailback of peed off motorists but it is not courteous nor considerate.

Hang on, where in the OP did it state he was dialing on the phone ? (Which is still not illegal even if he was)
He could of course have been casually checking his phone for the time which would have taken a mere second.

 

[Norm]

Yes, cycling slowly. And that's what resulted in a tailback. It's part of being a courteous road user to accept others' right to use the road, at whatever speed that may be at.

The bit about being on drops, and phoning is trying to dress it up as something it was not. All it was is a cyclist travelling slowly, the fact that he was on his phone does not matter - what if he had been travelling quickly and on his phone?

Not only does the fact that he was on his phone matter, it is the central point.

If someone is riding slowly because they ride slowly, they are just one of any number of people who rides slowly.

This person was not riding slowly because they ride slowly. That they were riding in all the gear and on a bike with drops suggests that they can ride fast.

This person was riding slowly because they were being visibly and obviously selfish, being ignorant of other road users and lacking in even the most basic of courtesies.

 

[apollo179]

Hang on, where in the OP did it state he was dialing on the phone ? (Which is still not illegal even if he was)
He could of course have been casually checking his phone for the time which would have taken a mere second.

Try where it says "he was riding one handed, on the drops,slowly, and dialing on his mobile phone".

 

[4F]

Not only does the fact that he was on his phone matter, it is the central point.

If someone is riding slowly because they ride slowly, they are just one of any number of people who rides slowly.

This person was not riding slowly because they ride slowly. That they were riding in all the gear and on a bike with drops suggests that they can ride fast.

This person was riding slowly because they were being visibly and obviously selfish, being ignorant of other road users and lacking in even the most basic of courtesies.

So its ok for a slow person to ride slowly but all fast riders must ride fast even if they want to ride slow ?

 

[Norm]

Playing devil's advocate Norm, how is "tarting about" with ones phone any different from checking the route/speed/distance on a GPS unit? Checking how long you have been out on your watch? Arsing about trying to get a bottle back in its bottle cage? Going none-handed to put on/off a jacket (something that has been "bigged up" on here before)?

TBH, the guy in the OP could have been me, as I regularly get my phone out of my top and check the GPS/App data when out and about.

As totallyfixed said, aside from the GPS (which I wouldn't advocate using whilst moving) the other examples do not require me to slow down or to take my eyes from the road for even a second.

 

[4F]

Try where it says "he was riding one handed, on the drops,slowly, and dialing on his mobile phone".

So they OP was able to determine that the cyclist in question was dialing (still not against the law) rather than using the phone for any other use ?

Do they work for MI5 or been watching too many episodes of Spooks ?

 

[apollo179]

Not only does the fact that he was on his phone matter, it is the central point.

If someone is riding slowly because they ride slowly, they are just one of any number of people who rides slowly.

This person was not riding slowly because they ride slowly. That they were riding in all the gear and on a bike with drops suggests that they can ride fast.

This person was riding slowly because they were being visibly and obviously selfish, being ignorant of other road users and lacking in even the most basic of courtesies.

+1
Precisely

 

[Noodley]

This person was riding slowly because they were being visibly and obviously selfish, being ignorant of other road users and lacking in even the most basic of courtesies.

In your opinion.

 

[4F]

Where in the HC does it say you not allowed to ride slowly ? Mine does not have this page in it.