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So if the bloke didn't have his phone in his hand it would have been ok?
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So long as he is not using it, no problem. As for giving the wrong impression, like it or not that's life and it's how we judge people without having a conversation.
 

freecyclist

New Member
Please re-read my post, I'm not sure that you got it.

Ok re-read it.
Your saying that so long as the great majority of drivers dont show you basic courtesy you wont give a toss about pissing motorists off.
That line of thought leads to a downward degeneration in behaviour.
 

youngoldbloke

The older I get, the faster I used to be ...
I would have thought that it just boils down to this, whether you are riding a bike, driving a vehicle or riding a horse your attention ought to be on the road and those that share the road with you, doesn't matter if it's illegal or not to use a mobile whilst riding a bike, we can all think of instances where the law is an ass. I don't care about the speed of the bike, it's not a factor, I defy anyone to hold a straight line whilst dialling / texting on a mobile, quite apart from the impression it gives as others have said. Strikes me to be tiny bit hypocritical to constantly vilify drivers on mobiles and we are seen to be doing the same
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+1 Sums it up very wel!
 

Noodley

Guest
I defy anyone to hold a straight line whilst dialling / texting on a mobile, quite apart from the impression it gives as others have said. Strikes me to be tiny bit hypocritical to constantly vilify drivers on mobiles and we are seen to be doing the same
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You are obviously not as good at bike handling as I am. It is piss easy to ride a bike in a straight line when using a phone.

And you are still missing the point that it is illegal for drivers to use a mobile, so I can criticise them for breaking the law.
 

Hip Priest

Veteran
Interestingly, the two most popular threads on this forum at present are:

1) A thread in which cyclists defend their rights to ride slowly in the face of impatient motorists
2) A thread in which cyclists chastise walkers and dog owners for holding them up
 

Noodley

Guest
Interestingly, the two most popular threads on this forum at present are:

1) A thread in which cyclists defend their rights to ride slowly in the face of impatient motorists
2) A thread in which cyclists chastise walkers and dog owners for holding them up

er, 1) is a thread in which an impatient driver gets pissed off at a slow cyclist. And then worries the entire world will try to kill all cyclists because of it. Clearly insane.
 

apollo179

Well-Known Member
You are obviously not as good at bike handling as I am. It is piss easy to ride a bike in a straight line when using a phone.

And you are still missing the point that it is illegal for drivers to use a mobile, so I can criticise them for breaking the law.

And If you cycling one handed, on the drops,slowly, and dialing on mobile phone causing a tailback of peed off motorists they can critiscise you for lacking courtesy and consideration.
 

david k

Hi
Location
North West
Interestingly, the two most popular threads on this forum at present are:

1) A thread in which cyclists defend their rights to ride slowly in the face of impatient motorists
2) A thread in which cyclists chastise walkers and dog owners for holding them up

oh the irony, it seems to have passed many by, unlike the motorists..........
 

apollo179

Well-Known Member
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Er No.

As has been pointed out, if motorists can't overtake a cyclist riding slowly on the phone then they cannot overtake a cyclist at full speed with their eyes on the road.
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The judgement of the behaviour in questioin goes beyond merely considering overtaking possibilities.
It has been established that the behaviour in question is indisputably visibly and obviously selfish, being ignorant of other road users and lacking in even the most basic of courtesies.
So er yes.
 

John the Monkey

Frivolous Cyclist
Location
Crewe
Where do we draw the line?

Is any level of effort short of maintaining an eyeball bursting maximum speed an affront to the poor dears on their way to the next tailback? What about using the crap that passes for cycle infrastructure in this country, should we be picking our way through the glass, fearful that our car borne betters will mete out punishment for any perceived delay we cause otherwise?

The biggest problem with handheld mobile use, regardless of mode of transport is that it distracts you from what you should be doing (paying attention to the road). Luckily, in the case outlined by the op, the user was utilising a mode of transport that a) kills vanishingly few people in the UK compared to the car despite the supposedly massive levels of irresponsibility displayed by it's users and b) doesn't allow high speeds to be attained/maintained whilst the user is engaged in this sort of activity.

F*ck me, if (as the op seems to suggest the hapless motorist is driven (ha!) to do) I tried to kill every motorist I saw jump a red light, drive on the pavement to get around a queue, use a mobile (texting in motion is a particular favourite these days, it seems) block a pedestrian crossing[1] I WOULD NEVER GET HOME. Motorists evidently aren't worrying about giving each other a bad name - and some of the common behaviours I've listed there ARE ACTUALLY ILLEGAL.

This hand wringing over whether irresponsible cyclists will get you a punishment pass, or similar is bizarre. Obey the law, ride sensibly, and you could still get one anyway, because you ride in the UK. Even if you don't experience malice, my experience of Manchester suggests that inattention, impatience and indifference can be every bit as dangerous, and are far more prevalent.

[1] Most recently, near me, blocking a wheelchair user from crossing for 3 changes of the lights. Drivers stared fixedly ahead when we (the wheel chair user, a passing pedestrian, and I) suggested that they were, perhaps, being rather selfish.
 

doog

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In June I cycled from Spain back to the UK. As an experienced cyclist, before I made that trip I made an unusual purchase - unusual for me that is.

I purchased a mirror that fits in the drops.

I got it for one reason and that was to monitor the traffic situation behind me. As a **normal*** cyclist I dont want to impede the traffic flow. I guess thats where I differ from many people on here.

The mirror was great. I found I could use advanced observations both ahead and behind to keep the traffic flowing freely around me.

Why wouldnt any sane person want this? (keep the traffic flowing)

There was an occasion when I was spinning up a Col in the Pyrenees. There were crash barriers to my right and I was on a long up hill. I looked in my my mirror and an HGV was matching my 5.6 mph uphill slog. He couldnt pass and even if I stopped he still couldnt pass. I gave him a thumbs up and pulled in at the next pull in about 3 mins later. (that was a long 3 minutes)He tooted and passed, so did 20 cars, most of the waved, nodded and thanked me. As a matter of fact this scenario was repeated numerous times.

Its threads like that remind me I belong to an idiot clan.
 

4F

Active member of Helmets Are Sh*t Lobby
Location
Suffolk.
to keep the traffic flowing freely around me.

Why wouldnt any sane person want this? (keep the traffic flowing)

But the traffic was still flowing here albeit it not as fast as the motorised traffic would have liked. The road was obviously not wide enough for traffic to pass and I would suggest it wouldn't have made any difference if the cyclist was riding at 10 mph or 18 mph.
 

Noodley

Guest
And If you cycling one handed, on the drops,slowly, and dialing on mobile phone causing a tailback of peed off motorists they can critiscise you for lacking courtesy and consideration.


Have we established how we 'know' these motorists were peed off yet? Or it another assumption, cos you think they would/should have been.
 
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