Artificial Intelligence (AI) - Where is this going?

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markemark

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If you removed all the intelligence from AI and threw a cup of coffee over it, it would come up with Mrs Brown's Boys.
 

siadwell

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Asked the question 'Who shot Donald Trump?' as it's a topical issue and got this reply



As @Drago points out it is a LLM and relies on the speed at which it can collect data from the internet. Were I to ask the same question in a few hours, it may be different.

The free version of ChatGPT most people will be using does not use anything like real-time data.

From Wikipedia: As of May 2024, GPT-4 has knowledge of events that occurred up to December 2023[40] and GPT-4o's knowledge cut-off is October 2023.[41] Paid subscriptions enable ChatGPT to search the web for real-time data.[42]
 

markemark

Über Member
What's even worse is that up to a few weeks ago you could ask it "Who won the 2024 presidential race?" and it said Trump. It had no concept that the election was in the future. All they did was block questions based on future events as it they couldn't make it understand the difference between present and future.
 

Ming the Merciless

There is no mercy
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The chimp council is a fictional concept. There is no actual group of chimpanzees that acts as a governing body or makes decisions for their species. The idea likely stems from popular culture or speculative fiction that portrays animals as having human-like societies and behaviors.

Therefore, the chimp council cannot agree or disagree on whether polar bears can vote. The question itself is based on a fictional premise.
 

Psamathe

Senior Member
A bit off the AI topic but
Years before that a colleague of mine used to ask interviewees "how do you set the ignition timing on a Ford Cortina?" ....... Good forms of questioning, and much better than "where do you see yourself in 5 year' time?".
When I used to have to interview software developers (C/C++, technical) I'd chat for a short time then give them a bit of paper and a pencil and say "Write a subroutine to ...", typically something like "... to compare two strings". It's fairly easy but not something most people will have actually done before as there are standard library functions everybody would use to do that. But it tests quite a few different aspects of their knowledge as well as their approach to writing code (eg do they use pointers or arrays, are they aware of string null terminators, etc.).

Even allowing for the pressure of an interview, amazing how many people could not do it.

Apparently my interviews I got quite a reputation in the specialist sector.

Ian
 
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Psamathe

Senior Member
I think there are significant concerns eg
That the majority of those AIs being developed are being developed by wealthy billionaires whose aims are not the betterment of society rather they just want even more money or to push their ideological/political stance.

As others have pointed out, the "garbage in, garbage out" is very relevant as all these AIs are based on whatever information sources are cheap/free and available rather than what is reliable.

Except AI has become something of a buzz-word and to me a lot of what companies are adding to their products is more what I'd call "machine learning" as there is no real "intelligence" involved.

I suspect it's a bubble that will burst, just the next selling feature the tech marketing departments are trying after the failure of the "Metaverse" to go anywhere (or at least failure to generate massive profits).

Interesting article about AI and/in smartphones

From The Conversation: AI probably isn’t the big smartphone selling point that Apple and other tech giants think it is
(I consider The Conversation a fairly balanced source.

Ian
 

markemark

Über Member
I feel the overhype has peaked. Investors will start to want a return and they won’t get it on the majority of start ups. I feel a bubble will burst in a couple of years when lots of money has been lost. The big companies will monetise it as they cost to run it becomes a factor. Google (I think) are looking at buying nuclear generators to power it!!

There has been a huge over hype and that will come crashing down. The reality of usage will be much less than the media scream.

The big unknown in the level of adoption is how bad these hallucinations are and if it is reliable. If they can sort that out or not will be the biggest factor in the take up. At the minute it’s not looking great and as the data increases it will get worse before it (if ever) gets better.
 

SpokeyDokey

68, & my GP says I will officially be old at 70!
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I think there are significant concerns eg
That the majority of those AIs being developed are being developed by wealthy billionaires whose aims are not the betterment of society rather they just want even more money or to push their ideological/political stance.

As others have pointed out, the "garbage in, garbage out" is very relevant as all these AIs are based on whatever information sources are cheap/free and available rather than what is reliable.

Except AI has become something of a buzz-word and to me a lot of what companies are adding to their products is more what I'd call "machine learning" as there is no real "intelligence" involved.

I suspect it's a bubble that will burst, just the next selling feature the tech marketing departments are trying after the failure of the "Metaverse" to go anywhere (or at least failure to generate massive profits).

Interesting article about AI and/in smartphones

From The Conversation: AI probably isn’t the big smartphone selling point that Apple and other tech giants think it is
(I consider The Conversation a fairly balanced source.

Ian

I prefer your term of Machine Learning.

The 'AI' in phones, etc is miles away from being artificial intelligence and is nothing but the latest 'big thing' being used to hype eg product sales.
 
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Fastpedaller

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Algorythm .... (is that AI?) . On a motoring forum recently a car - buyer recalled his recent trip to a car dealer where he'd seen his dream car:-
The car was still much above the price the buyer was prepared to pay, and he approached the salesman but was told there was no movement on the price as it had been set using an algorithm. He pointed out to saleman the car had been reduced by £1200 since the time he saw it a few weeks ago, so maybe the algorithm doesn't know what it's doing. I guess he'll have to wait and see :laugh:
I guess it's a similar case to trawling Amazon and finding they want £10,000 for a book because that's the last one remaining?
 
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