Armstrong charged and banned
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Holy farking bejesus! Have you read this thread or the links or any of the plethora of info over the last 15 years?
Post no. 1495 and we're back to square one!
P.S. I don't have Yello's patience
Can't be. He doped and was banned from the TdeF. Check the records for 2005.
Many parallels with Armstrong except the Swiss anti doping authority dropped the case as having no jurisdiction over him after he retired whereas USADA kept after Armstrong.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jan_Ullrich#Operaci.C3.B3n_Puerto_doping_case
It will never be done and dusted. It will go on and on and on like all conspiracy theories with Chuffy and co - who it now appears was not even into cycling when it happened - convinced there is no question he doped and others saying it was a witch-hunt with evidence that was never tested, never failed a drug test etc.
Boris Bajic
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I don't have a strong view on this... To me anyone who completes a TdF is qute a person - anyone who gets close to winning a jersey is a bit of a hero.
But I'd like to draw readers' attention to another public figure pilloried for decades (millenia) in certain parts but revered as a messiah in others.
Although never actually a TdF winner, he was absolutely crucified by the powers that were and the allegations against him were never proved.
Coincidence?
Although this all happened a couple of thousand years ago, I think there are parallels here with the current story.
By saying the above, I do not want to give the impression that I have a strong view on Saint Lance of Ventoux.
But I'd like to draw readers' attention to another public figure pilloried for decades (millenia) in certain parts but revered as a messiah in others.
Although never actually a TdF winner, he was absolutely crucified by the powers that were and the allegations against him were never proved.
Coincidence?
Although this all happened a couple of thousand years ago, I think there are parallels here with the current story.
By saying the above, I do not want to give the impression that I have a strong view on Saint Lance of Ventoux.
No, not at all. All I'm saying is that back in the day, even before I really knew what doping was or the scale of it, Armstrong came across as a bit of a prick. to me. In my opinion.
you would save us all a lot of bother if you stopped getting hot flushes over this every time someone says they don't like him.
There's plenty of riders who were doped to the eyeballs but who I still liked at the time and still like now. Virenque, Pantani, Dufaux, Rominger, Indurain, Ullrich, Riis, to name a few.
I just never liked your saint Lance, sorry you have such a beef about that
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ha ha yes thats true, read a book about his tdf with Lemond. Funny how we or I view him diffeently, yes he wasnt a really likeable character but people respected him. my feelings towards lance are different although i cannot really explain why . someone on here said they spoke to him when he first became a pro, he just said 'nice bike' and lance swore at him????
Smokin Joe
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Gary Glitter.It'd help me, if you actually gave his name
david k
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ive read slaying the badger, good book and he was a bully. but as i say i dont have the same ill feeling towards him as i do lance, maybe because i was too young i just dont know
being an arse doesnt mean you are more or less guilty of doping than someone who isnt, it just makes me more determined to see you brought to justice
david k
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on reflection my dislike of lance is more to do with his attitude than it is his doping.
i think back in the day drugs were so available i dont think it was seen in the same way as it is today. perceptions change over time and im glad to see it is frowned upon now and riders/pro sports people know this. it used to be like taking multi vitamins years ago
i think back in the day drugs were so available i dont think it was seen in the same way as it is today. perceptions change over time and im glad to see it is frowned upon now and riders/pro sports people know this. it used to be like taking multi vitamins years ago
Chuffy
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Fair enough....but you'll be back.
...and can I just say a big 'thank you' for patiently reading, digesting and explaining a lot of the stuff that some of us lazy sacks of crap didn't have the patience for. Good work that man.
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