Armstrong charged and banned

[Flying_Monkey]

I am just looking forward to the next volume of Lance's autobiography: It's Not About the Drugs.

 

[rich p]

He made a proposal of marriage to you up-thread...we've all been waiting on your reply ever since.

Wow, I've come over all coy.

 

[Monsieur Remings]

So, if Pantani doped and could be found to have done so, virtually impossible I know, and if Bjarne Riis admitted so, then that would leave Jan Ullrich, potentially as six times winner of the TDF!!

Did Ullrich ever test positive?

 

[Noodley]

Hammond's comments on ITV4 Vuelta Highlights:

Never saw anything suspicious, and no pressure at Disco (2005 2006) to dope.
He was known as a clean rider and he never saw or heard anything.
If he had been in Armstrong's position he would have fought to clear his name.
He finds the ending very disappointing...

 

[Noodley]

Did Ullrich ever test positive?

He was found guilty of doping offences earlier this year by CAS, not the same a testing positive tho.

But he was stripped of all his results from May 2005 onwards - which I think was a 3rd place in a race against his mates

 

[Chuffy]

Hammond's comments on ITV4 Vuelta Highlights:

Never saw anything suspicious, and no pressure at Disco (2005 2006) to dope.
He was known as a clean rider and he never saw or heard anything.
If he had been in Armstrong's position he would have fought to clear his name.
He finds the ending very disappointing...

Assuming this is Hammond referring to himself, that doesn't surprise me.

 

[screenman]

I just want to see where he failed a test.

 

[Noodley]

I just want to see where he failed a test.

Who are you meaning? Armstrong, Ullrich, Hammond?

 

[Alun]

If the powers that be in cycling had the balls to put their house in order to begin with a lot of this type of thing would not occur. I don`t understand why they are still handing out 2 year bans. They should not only adopt a one strike and your out for life policy, they should adopt a one strike and your out PLUS we will then drag you through the courts in an an attempt to sieze all your assets which you have made from cycling.

Armstrong will be minted through his public appearances, books and endorsements. He will continue to make after dinner speeeches, more books etc telling the world how he was a scapegoat and a victim.

Make it plain that if you prove positive just once and it will start to make a difference.

They hand out 2 year bans because that is what has been agreed by the signatories to the World Anti Doping Code.
There are moves to make it a 4 year ban but it will probably take some time for all the signatories to reach agreement.
Any sanction must be seen to be proportionate to the offence, or it could lead to legal challenges.
To step back from cycling for a minute, the ban for a drink driving offence in Britain is usually 12 months, compare that with your proposed lifetime ban for a first doping offence and you can see the difficulties WADA face.

 

[Monsieur Remings]

Who are you meaning? Armstrong, Ullrich, Hammond?

Wiggins.

 

[Noodley]

I wonder what Armstrong's response would be if I asked him to send me the cost of his books?

If he sends me the money, then I'll mention to him that I never bought them - just to see how he feels to be cheated

 

[thom]

They hand out 2 year bans because that is what has been agreed by the signatories to the World Anti Doping Code.
There are moves to make it a 4 year ban but it will probably take some time for all the signatories to reach agreement.
Any sanction must be seen to be proportionate to the offence, or it could lead to legal challenges.
To step back from cycling for a minute, the ban for a drink driving offence in Britain is usually 12 months, compare that with your proposed lifetime ban for a first doping offence and you can see the difficulties WADA face.

From http://road.cc/content/news/64076-u...ng-life-disqualifies-him-all-results-1-august
An extract from USADA's statement:

In accordance with the Code, aggravating circumstances including involvement in multiple anti-doping rule violations and participation in a sophisticated doping scheme and conspiracy as well as trafficking, administration and/or attempted administration of a prohibited substance or method, justify a period of ineligibility greater than the standard sanction. Accordingly, Mr. Armstrong has received a lifetime period of ineligibility for his numerous anti-doping rule violations, including his involvement in trafficking and administering doping products to others. A lifetime period of ineligibility as described in the Code prevents Mr. Armstrong from participating in any activity or competition organized by any signatory to the Code or any member of any signatory.​

 

[zimzum42]

I just want to see where he failed a test.

You still don't get it do you - the whole thing is about armstrong and the governing bodies colluding and covering up the cheating

Read the thread and the links properly

 

[Alun]

From http://road.cc/content/news/64076-u...ng-life-disqualifies-him-all-results-1-august
An extract from USADA's statement:

In accordance with the Code, aggravating circumstances including involvement in multiple anti-doping rule violations and participation in a sophisticated doping scheme and conspiracy as well as trafficking, administration and/or attempted administration of a prohibited substance or method, justify a period of ineligibility greater than the standard sanction. Accordingly, Mr. Armstrong has received a lifetime period of ineligibility for his numerous anti-doping rule violations, including his involvement in trafficking and administering doping products to others. A lifetime period of ineligibility as described in the Code prevents Mr. Armstrong from participating in any activity or competition organized by any signatory to the Code or any member of any signatory.​

Yes I read that earlier, I think Steveindenmark was calling for a lifetime ban for ALL first offenders, whereas Armstrong is a special case.

 

[Red Light]

Breaking Billy Ocean-style News! Red Light spells Nobber

Hold the front page, put the Crown Jewels on p2, for Noodley is ....errr.....Noodley