Armstrong charged and banned

[yello]

You do realise of course that the mods are watching this thread and anyone found guilty of using post enhancing drugs will have their posts deleted and all trophy points removed. You've been warned.

 

[BJH]

I'm sure Lance knows more about what he did than absolutely anyone. But he doesn't know what the evidence against him is because part of the USADA game is that people cannot see the evidence against them before deciding whether to challenge the case or not. Why he decided not to contest is speculation but I can quite understand that there comes a time in life when you have to question do you really want to spend the next several years in a room with lawyers arguing the toss with every step followed by the media or do you just want to let it go? Years ago if I were in his position and innocent I too would have fought it but now I would let it go. A few years ago I was involved in a commercial legal dispute and my advice was its not worth the hassle, just let it go but the legal department decided they were going to go for it anyway. I and others did spend lots of time with the lawyers doing all the preparatory work and we could have done far more useful things with our time but we did win the case. And that was in the English Courts. My experience of US Courts is that its an order of magnitude greater effort involved. The UK case cost c£0.5m of legal fees, a similar US case I was involved in cost nearer $40m

You cannot compare commercial litigation to this case. You say he has not been allowed to view the evidence before deciding whether to defend himself and cite the difficulty of the legal system as a potential reason.
Sorry but that really does not stack. His position here is very similar to when Michael Jackson decided to pay off a kid and his family instead of going through the legal process to defend his name and reputation.
I believed MJ to be guilty simply because he could not seriously say that he did not want his good name sullied in courts be defending himself when any normal person faced with that allegation would spend every penny they had to do so.
LA has made millions from the sport and according to him won those Tours fair and square. If I was him I would be willing to see every one of these alleged liars in court and Tyler would already have received paperwork from my solicitor.
I cannot believe that he would not do the same in these circumstances. Tired my ar&e !!!!!

 

[BJH]

Wanting Liggett out is not a witch hunt. It's taking a view that his credibility is now shot by the comments he has made.

 

[BJH]

Ah, the disgruntled ex-employee mechanic raises his head again. Where is all the new stuff or is USADA's cased just based on a rehash of the same old same old from the usual suspects? This by the way was the report on what happened between Lance and Mike in 2005.

Is he not entitled to remain annoyed with him if he feels he was treated badly? Just because he's disgruntled doesn't mean he wasn't treated badly.

 

[Boris Bajic]

I wonder if there's a special prize for the first post on the 100th page.

If there were - and if Lance won it - would he have to return it in line with his punishment?

 

[BJH]

Another thought on Liggett with his description of USADA as nefarious.

If they are as bad as he is now claiming then we should be clearly doubting any testing they carried out on LA so how many of the claimed 500 tests were under USADA jurisdiction????

 

[Red Light]

Is he not entitled to remain annoyed with him if he feels he was treated badly? Just because he's disgruntled doesn't mean he wasn't treated badly.

He's entitled to feel what he wants. But in reading about his views and feelings and wondering whether he was treated badly it is worth knowing that a Court threw out all his claims that were the basis of his disgruntlement. And in the light of that the person being portrayed as the "win at all costs, never give up" Armstrong, having won all the major points in the case offered him a settlement (which he accepted) rather than press home the legal advantage and probably bankrupt him with legal costs.

 

[Dayvo]

I wonder if there's a special prize for the first post on the 100th page.

If there were - and if Lance won it - would he have to return it in line with his punishment?

If I make that exclusive first post on page 100, I'd like a replica yellow jersey signed by LA! He seems to have a few surplus ones, now.

 

[Boris Bajic]

If I make that exclusive first post on page 100, I'd like a replica yellow jersey signed by LA! He seems to have a few surplus ones, now.

1. I wouldn't use it to wipe the crap of the soles of my shoes. That devalued so-called hero can go and take a flying fornicatory act at the Moon for all I care.

2. Really? A signed Maillot Jaune from the greatest of them all? Wow!

 

[Russell Allen]

please let this be 100, I have always wanted to score the magical ton

 

[Boris Bajic]

please let this be 100, I have always wanted to score the magical ton

I find this eager and pointless search for the elusive ton a cheap and tawdry exercise.

Somebody should do something to put a stop to it at once.

No wonder our jails are so full!

 

[Red Light]

If I make that exclusive first post on page 100, I'd like a replica yellow jersey signed by LA! He seems to have a few surplus ones, now.

USADA have taken back the colour yellow which is apparently owned by the TdeF so he now only has signed replica white ones.

 

[Boris Bajic]

NOOOOOOOO!

 

[Red Light]

NOOOOOOOO!

B****r, didn't mean that to happen. Anyone want a white replica jersey signed by LA?

 

[2PedalsTez]

Mr Liggett bites back.. (Twitter)
" I should make it quite clear. I have no business interests with Lance Armstrong as reported on Cyclingnews.com. Please retract -- Phil Liggett (@PhilLiggett)"