FishFright
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Should have got an EV for such a small commute, even an older one with reduced battery capacity would do that perfectly and wouldn't be pumping filthy in to the local area.
Also that is 100 % lifestyle choice.
Are we being forced to go electric?
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Should have got an EV for such a small commute, even an older one with reduced battery capacity would do that perfectly and wouldn't be pumping filthy in to the local area.
Also that is 100 % lifestyle choice.
FishFright
More wheels than sense
Not if she can’t afford the cheapest oldest EV and/or has no guaranteed/practical/reliable way to charge (lives in rented, a flat, no OSP).
Maybe @icowden can confirm. If she actually lives next door to him, she could charge the car on his drive
What if she was abducted by aliens and installed as leader on a far away planet ?
What if she can afford one , has a driveway and would only need to charge weekly with such a small commute. I don't know and neither do you.
On a serious note this debate has fallen into those who know things and those who pick single cases out of the ether because they've all run out of reasons .
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vickster
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FishFright
More wheels than sense
That's ok , they don't believe in you either
Her argument (which to be fair is not unreasonable given the cost of living vs Nurses pay) is that she cannot afford to replace her car.
My bafflement is that she uses the car to get there in the first place!
vickster
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Maybe works out cheaper than public transport (she may use her car for other things, not just commuting) and shift patterns may also make it difficult...especially with SWR seemingly cutting many services to the bone. Quicker? Yes, if buses and trains run 24/7 to schedule and link up perfectly then maybe it's as quick as the car...but the reality is often they don't (there are also 2 train strikes this week which will also impact the trains on non strike days).
Convenience and service reliability count for a lot when choosing car vs. public transport
oldwheels
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No idea if it is true but a Norwegian ferry company is reported to be banning battery powers cars and hybrids on it’s ferries presumably because they consider them a fire risk.
Vehicle decks are normally enclosed with no access so any fire could get a good grip before being detected.
On our ferries passenger numbers are restricted if they are carrying dangerous goods and on the small ferries I have noticed in the past that fuel tankers are parked immediately in front of the off ramp.
Vehicle decks are normally enclosed with no access so any fire could get a good grip before being detected.
On our ferries passenger numbers are restricted if they are carrying dangerous goods and on the small ferries I have noticed in the past that fuel tankers are parked immediately in front of the off ramp.
DRM
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I never said along way from work, you can be 5 to 6 miles away from work, and getting there can be utterly horrendous, train strikes, bus services that don’t turn up that means the next bus, if it appears makes you late, so you end up going for the one that’s before your original bus as it’s better being early, than late, public transport is a shambles unless your in London
Alex321
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Not really a traditional ferry operator. They operate "Cruise Ferries" aimed at tourists, and take 6/7days to get between ports that could be done in 28 hours just driving.
https://www.havilavoyages.com/
Weirdly, the ships themselves are battery-powered - but they say those batteries are in separate, fireproof compartments. They just don't have the facilities to fight a battery fire in the cargo decks.
Not if she can’t afford the cheapest oldest EV and/or has no guaranteed/practical/reliable way to charge (lives in rented, a flat, no OSP).
Maybe @icowden can confirm. If she actually lives next door to him, she could charge the car on his drive
I know people think they should have anything available to them.
It's not the case and many will not get an EV for a very long time, due to logistics, cost etc.
vickster
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I was responding to post #3661 where the lady having a non ULEZ compliant ICE car and not an EV is apparently 100% lifestyle choice...
(the ULEZ hasn't yet been expanded to outer London where she lives/works but it will be in August, and she presumably bought the car before the expansion decision was taken towards the end of 2022, she might have had it for 10 years before mass market EVs were even available)
Should have got an EV for such a small commute, even an older one with reduced battery capacity would do that perfectly and wouldn't be pumping filthy in to the local area.
Also that is 100 % lifestyle choice.
I came across this link with a bit of research, statistics on hydrogen fuelled vehicles
https://www.thecarexpert.co.uk/why-hydrogen-cars-are-not-the-answer/
https://www.thecarexpert.co.uk/why-hydrogen-cars-are-not-the-answer/
It's also not just EVs that they have banned. They have banned hybrid and fuel cell vehicles. It will be interesting to see how that affects their business!
I saw this quote:
If only a cruise ship had some sort of access to a large amount of water...
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