Are we being forced to go electric?

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youngoldbloke

The older I get, the faster I used to be ...
If the car doesn't ever move then it doesn't need charging.
If it's used then we just need to ensure it goes past or to charging points.
Workplaces. Shops. Attractions. Coffee shops.

It shouldn't be too difficult.


If you don't have an EV you probably won't have even noticed the numbers of chargers already here.

I've noticed very few chargers generally, and only 2 or 3 in supermarket carparks, when they have them. Fine with the relatively few EVs on the road at the moment. I also think it's very naive to imagine that charging will continue to be free or subsidised, especially with energy prices increasing and the inevitable increase in demand. I wouldn't be surprised if the cost of energy for running an EV increased to match or even exceed the fuel costs of running an ICE vehicle when EVs are widely adopted. Then there is the question of the Government's income from VED, and taxes on petrol and diesel sales.
 
I've noticed very few chargers generally, and only 2 or 3 in supermarket carparks, when they have them. Fine with the relatively few EVs on the road at the moment. I also think it's very naive to imagine that charging will continue to be free or subsidised, especially with energy prices increasing and the inevitable increase in demand. I wouldn't be surprised if the cost of energy for running an EV increased to match or even exceed the fuel costs of running an ICE vehicle when EVs are widely adopted. Then there is the question of the Government's income from VED, and taxes on petrol and diesel sales.

If electric costs rise to the price of petrol then charging cars will be the least of our worries. Nobody will be able to pay their utility bills.

I'm sure ved will come in somehow but that's chicken feed compared to anything else.
 
North Wales is pretty poor for charging. I was asking one of the chaps on our caravan site about charging, and he said he doesn't. Drives there and back on a charge - doesn't use the car much whilst in North Wales though, which we would do.

Don't you have electric hookups for the caravans anyway ? Can't you charge there ?
 

CXRAndy

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You'd blow the circuit breaker - very sensitive to load. A kettle and a microwave on will trip it - this is in a static.

It all depends on the quality of the site. I've taken 100kW via a plug on a static caravan sight. All drawn at 8 Amps- parked up whilst we walked and cycled around :okay:
 

CXRAndy

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The point is on a day to day basis 95% of all car journeys are less than 35 miles per day.

Vast majority will rarely do long drives and will charge at home, where it is anything between 5p to 25p per kWatt to charge .

Also these doom and gloom headlines grabbers

The huge amount of zero C02 emissions savings using an EV compared to C02, NOX particulates being pumped out by an ICE

So another negative, when it only effect a few driver's
 

CXRAndy

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If you want to know locations of just about every charge point, the power capacity in the UK


Zap Map
They're literally everywhere

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This doesn't include every household with a plug socket
 
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