Are we a miserable lot?

[presta]

My experience is that I'm acknowledged by people in Lycra when I'm wearing Lycra, and acknowledged by people in mufti when I'm in mufti. Them and us is a powerful instinct.

In the Netherlands cyclists don't acknowledge each other

Remember the scene with Crocodile Dundee walking along the street in New York saying 'Gudday' to everyone? It's funny for a reason.

 

[rydabent]

My granddaughter is five and my daughter is in her forties and most of the women in my family or down the pub are well past girl territory. I am conventional enough to hold doors open for women and girls I don't know but I don't think I have ever asked for feedback on whether they appreciate it

Your post reminds me of an incident during the women's lib movement years ago. As I approached a business building I held the door open for two women. One of them said in a a really snotty voice, "are you holding the door for me since I am a woman"? It instantly come to me, and I said, no ma'am Im holding the door for you since I am a gentleman!!! You could tell she didnt like may reply, and her friend made her all the madder when she said " well Sally, I guess he has you there"!!!

 

[classic33]

Bloomin heck. I've said hello to random people 5 times so far and I'm already done with it.

Will not be saying hello to ANYONE the rest of the day. GOOD DAY TO YOU.
<--- smiley to show this is all a joke. Otherwise we will get complaints that there was no smiley. <--- that's a real smiley btw.

Owdo

 

[Jameshow]

Nothing wrong with SIS - it’s the group set of the people!

SIS wasn't a groupset irrc?

More a marketing phrase to describe Shimano integrated shifting...

What is the line up of MTB groupsets?

Tourney
Acera
Altus
Deore
Deore xt
XTR...

 

[Punkawallah]

SIS wasn't a groupset irrc?

More a marketing phrase to describe Shimano integrated shifting...

What is the line up of MTB groupsets?

Tourney
Acera
Altus
Deore
Deore xt
XTR...

While you are, indeed, correct, I was skitting the GCN boys’ and their opinion of 105.
AFAIK SIS was a reference to ‘Shimano Indexing System’ (or similar), and according to Disraeli Gears was a Tourney item, and had branded trigger shifters. Like all good ‘zombie systems’, it just keeps on going.

 

[cyberknight]

i thought tourney is the bottom road set?

 

[Drago]

Tourney is OK for you posh public school boys, but is way out of reach of us mortals.

SIS wasn't a groupset, merely a geartrain, and it did eventually become rebranded as Tourney in the early 00's (?) It undoubtedly did stand for Shimano Index System, because that's about the nicest name they could come up with for thet unsophisticated (albeit very durable) pig iron. Prior to that it only had a model number.

And Tourney was never a groupset either, just a geartrain. Not enough Tourney branded kit to even mark it as a drivetrain.

 

[Time Waster]

Don't you find cyclists trying to sound everyman because they run 105 a bit wrong? Posh stuff starts at Tiagra surely! My last good bike I scripted and saved to be able to afford the Tiagra on it.

Mind you i did feel a class traitor when my local LBS put in a deore bottom bracket I think because that's the cheapest he had and he did a deal for me.

One last thing, if I say hello on here, with the number of cyclists reading the thread just how many days worth of on the road hellos does it count for? I reckon a full week so I'll say it now.

"Hello!"

 

[Alex321]

Tourney is OK for you posh public school boys, but is way out of reach of us mortals.

SIS wasn't a groupset, merely a geartrain, and it did eventually become rebranded as Tourney in the early 00's (?) It undoubtedly did stand for Shimano Index System, because that's about the nicest name they could come up with for thet unsophisticated (albeit very durable) pig iron. Prior to that it only had a model number.

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And Tourney was never a groupset either, just a geartrain. Not enough Tourney branded kit to even mark it as a drivetrain.

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That may have been true when it first came out, but there are definitely parts for the whole groupset now, for both road and MTB.

 

[John the Monkey]

Nothing wrong with SIS - it’s the group set of the people!

I think a lot of the stuff on my '90s Raleigh Pioneer is SIS labelled. Mostly ok, although the brake levers were those terrible plastic ones, and got changed for Deore 7 speed levers some time ago.
Going back to the theme of the OP, acknowledgements seem to get rarer the more prevalent cyclists are. I got few in the bit of my commute that was in the city centre of Manchester (mostly from people I actually knew), and more as I rode into the suburbs.

 

[Dogtrousers]

Don't you find cyclists trying to sound everyman because they run 105 a bit wrong? Posh stuff starts at Tiagra surely! My last good bike I scripted and saved to be able to afford the Tiagra on it.

Mind you i did feel a class traitor when my local LBS put in a deore bottom bracket I think because that's the cheapest he had and he did a deal for me.

One last thing, if I say hello on here, with the number of cyclists reading the thread just how many days worth of on the road hellos does it count for? I reckon a full week so I'll say it now.

"Hello!"

Ah ha! You have fallen into a trap. I'm a poncy 105 rider and you've mistakenly said hello to me. Such an error would never happen on the road!

 

[Drago]

Ah ha! You have fallen into a trap. I'm a poncy 105 rider and you've mistakenly said hello to me. Such an error would never happen on the road!

We only ever see your bike when being carried on the roof of your Bentley. We're too busy stading jn the gutter and offing our hats to dare risk eye contact with one as Exalted as you.

 

[Dogtrousers]

We only ever see your bike when being carried on the roof of your Bentley. We're too busy stading jn the gutter and offing our hats to dare risk eye contact with one as Exalted as you.

Quite, and I don't want to see you doing this again

 

[Drago]

I'm sorry Millord. I saw you there with Accy and couldn't help myself.

 

[Time Waster]

Ah ha! You have fallen into a trap. I'm a poncy 105 rider and you've mistakenly said hello to me. Such an error would never happen on the road!

I say it here to get it over with! I here it might count for say 35 odd people that's 5 people per day per week for just one hello.

Then I'm not getting out on my bike much and possibly more than 35 people might have read it. Just think, that one hello could cover me for half the year! So with that I can be a cantankerous as I want to be on the road in the full knowledge I've met my hello quota on here!