Are we a miserable lot?

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No, I take my cues from the shape and performance of the rider, and the look of their clothing. If that all shouts performance and premium , then the bike might be at the premium end of the market too (but not always).
Meanwhile, I might be wearing my sports direct top, and riding an old and tired lump of aluminium.
I confession to being a bit nerdy and not noticing the riders but looking at their bikes. Not for expensive bikes however but more for things that interest me including the kit on them and older or unusual bikes in particular. I always notice old bikes that have been looked after and are clearly still giving good service.
 

ExBrit

Über Member
There was a extrovert gay man who rode with our club sometimes. It was pure joy to see the expression on other rider's faces when he calls out "Hellooo Daaarling!". Nice thing is, I never saw anyone take offence. I enjoyed riding with him so much he probably thought I was gay too :-)
 

Drago

Legendary Member
...is to speak to people on the Tube.

Didn't realise they still used those in London.

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Reminds me of an English guy I met in a hotel bar in Sweden talking about his travels for work in Norway. He used to say being traditional / old school English he'd reach a door just as a woman reached it so he'd hold the door open for her only for a few men to dash through before her giving him a look for holding the door open.

It was that they were more equal than UK so men never held doors for women but if you're idiot enough to do so they'll take advantage of you and walk through.

He did however say the Norwegian women did actually love it and other old fashioned things some english gentlemen still do occasionally. He was a guy with gift of the gab and some charm to him so I can kind of believe his claim that Norwegian women love Englishmen applied to him.

I suspect that tale included a few outdated stereotypes.

I did once meet my uncle's posh girls school educated southerner partner and genuinely heard her talking about her first visit to northern England when in her late 50s or so. Apparently she was genuinely very surprised us northerners didn't all live I terraced houses with clothes lines across the street like the very old coronation street credit's!! That is the best of Cheltenham lady's college education for you!

At least my flat cap is useful. Although the ability to marry a rich city banker who dies just before middle age leaving you a tidy fortune to live out your later life like your earlier life not working and plenty of holidays to posh places is arguably quite useful! :laugh:
 

lazybloke

Ginger biscuits and cheddar
Location
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I did once meet my uncle's posh girls school educated southerner partner and genuinely heard her talking about her first visit to northern England when in her late 50s or so. Apparently she was genuinely very surprised us northerners didn't all live I terraced houses with clothes lines across the street like the very old coronation street credit's!! That is the best of Cheltenham lady's college education for you!

At least my flat cap is useful. Although the ability to marry a rich city banker who dies just before middle age leaving you a tidy fortune to live out your later life like your earlier life not working and plenty of holidays to posh places is arguably quite useful! :laugh:
When I moved to Leeds, I did see terraces with washing lines strung across the streets!
Okay, just one or two, and this was well over 3 decades ago.

It was somewhere between Woodhouse Moor and the Meanwood road ; round about here:
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Streeview only goes back as far as 2008. I'm thinking at least 15 years further back...
 

Slick

Guru
Reminds me of an English guy I met in a hotel bar in Sweden talking about his travels for work in Norway. He used to say being traditional / old school English he'd reach a door just as a woman reached it so he'd hold the door open for her only for a few men to dash through before her giving him a look for holding the door open.

It was that they were more equal than UK so men never held doors for women but if you're idiot enough to do so they'll take advantage of you and walk through.

He did however say the Norwegian women did actually love it and other old fashioned things some english gentlemen still do occasionally. He was a guy with gift of the gab and some charm to him so I can kind of believe his claim that Norwegian women love Englishmen applied to him.

I suspect that tale included a few outdated stereotypes.

I did once meet my uncle's posh girls school educated southerner partner and genuinely heard her talking about her first visit to northern England when in her late 50s or so. Apparently she was genuinely very surprised us northerners didn't all live I terraced houses with clothes lines across the street like the very old coronation street credit's!! That is the best of Cheltenham lady's college education for you!

At least my flat cap is useful. Although the ability to marry a rich city banker who dies just before middle age leaving you a tidy fortune to live out your later life like your earlier life not working and plenty of holidays to posh places is arguably quite useful! :laugh:

To be fair, the girls I know still appreciate someone holding the door open for them. :okay:
 
Really, that surprises me.

My granddaughter is five and my daughter is in her forties and most of the women in my family or down the pub are well past girl territory. I am conventional enough to hold doors open for women and girls I don't know but I don't think I have ever asked for feedback on whether they appreciate it
 

Slick

Guru
My granddaughter is five and my daughter is in her forties and most of the women in my family or down the pub are well past girl territory. I am conventional enough to hold doors open for women and girls I don't know but I don't think I have ever asked for feedback on whether they appreciate it

I have, you should give it a go. :okay:
 
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