Any Runners On Here??

[pubrunner]

A nice, easy 15k today, at 1.15. I wouldn't have been able to say that six months ago...

I've found this brief posting ^^^ , to be the most inspiring that I've read in a while.

I've let my fitness slide; more food in and much less exercise than I was doing 6 or 7 years ago. Weighing in at 13st 9Lbs, I'm over two stone heavier than my best running weight. On the plus side, I can probably give FM a good ten years . . . and at last, I've got back into the mode of doing some modest training - which hopefully, will reach a steady 40+ miles a week.

I went out on New Years Day, replete with cold weather gear and a Garmin Forerunner. I decided to do an accurate 4 mile course - with only 200ft of climb - 'flat' in these parts. Towards the end of the first mile, I checked the watch - 9:20 mileing ! I was sure I was doing sub 8 !

I did the 4 miles in 37:10 . . . about half a minute slower, than my best for 10k. Chastened by this experience, I went out two days later on the same course - 35:10; two days after this, it was 34:00. Obviously, the rate of improvement will diminish, but at least the improvements are there to be made . . . despite getting older & bulkier.

I've found FM's & Richard T's postings to be inspiring ! I remember FM, describing his 'battle' to break 40 mins for 10k; and now he's posting about doing a 'nice, easy run' - in a time that he couldn't have done, 6 months ago. The thing is, I find it very motivating - reading about how others have improved over time. They aren't doing anything special - merely training hard and consistently. And there lies the message, for all fellow runners to take on board; it's no use feeling sorry for oneself . . . get out and train . . . Improvements can be made. I'm setting myself a target of 12 stone this year and a regular 40+ miles each week; hopefully, by this time next year, I'll also be getting close to sub 1:30 for a half.

FM & Richard, keep making those postings; they inspire and motivate me . . . and bring on an immense sense of guilt, when I don't run .

 

[Richard A Thackeray]

That's a good snow covering :-). She needs to run faster to get warm . Expect she still would have finished ahead of me along with most of the starters. I managed to jump into thigh high mud at withins or stoop last year on the way back down. May have been Stoop, don't think it was the one with the nasty granite slabs. Local cross country training next weekend with the club for me which will be a nice and much needed training run.

I did it in shorts, but still had long-sleeve tops on - not like those hardy souls who were out in vests!! (ladies too!!!)

'Withins' is the race that has the flag-stoned sections, near Top Withins

FM & Richard, keep making those postings; they inspire and motivate me . . . and bring on an immense sense of guilt, when I don't run .

Thankyou!!
I, & I presume 'F M', will endeavour to do so

 

[Flying_Monkey]

I, & I presume 'F M', will endeavour to do so

I certainly will.

 

[RAYMOND]

Toe pain..hello fellow runners.. I'm fairly new to running, well on a regular basis, anyhow I plodded on to race fitness...4 miles without stopping..jogging realy.
I was already fit,just not running fit..yes theres a difference.
Anyway after about 4 months of running(road) I got a pain in the second and third toe on my right foot.After 3 miles in it went up to my upper bridge of my foot so I stopped, it was
a shooting pain, feels like the bone,As soon as I stopped the pain went.I can tiptoe run without pain, run uphill too, also I manipulated the toes at home without pain.
Is it a stress fracture of the toes? I tried a jog from work a few days after but the pain was there so stopped. Anyway a week later I ran this morning,managed 3 miles but pain came again.
Should I leave it longer..i don't want to lose my race fitness,IS IT A STRESS FRACTURE?
Any advice would be welcome..What about cushioned trainers? running on grass?
cheers

 

[Ian A]

This is one for the doctor/physio I'm afraid. If I was qualified (definitely not!) I'd want a look at it. Could be a medical issue, shoe or somethign else. Best get it seen by a pro and hopefully nip it in the bud. Like you say, you don't want to lose race fitness through injury. Good luck .

Funnily enough I stopped having pain when I went for less cushioning. I couldn't run more than around five miles and no more than three short runs a week. For me it was very bad technique which I tried to cover using very padded trainers. That was me though, not you .

 

[RAYMOND]

This is what i think it may be as it fits my symptons

Bodyworks: March Fracture
How to recognise it, how to overcome it
Posted: 5 June 2000
by Patrick Milroy

Symptoms
This is a stress fracture of the second (or sometimes third) metatarsal. You’ll feel pain in the middle of the long bone(s) of your foot, which will slowly increase with distance, reaching a crescendo as you end your run. The pain will return earlier during the next session and become severe sooner, forcing a premature finish. This pattern will continue.
Signs
You may be able to feel or see a little swelling around an established stress fracture, though an early one may simply be painful if stressed by pressure, or when you move the fractured halves in opposition to each other.
Medical investigations
When pain alone is the symptom, a bone scan may be the only way to convince the athlete that a stress fracture exists. X-rays will show healing callus in an injury which is more than four weeks old, while doubters may respond to ultrasound testing by a physiotherapist – it causes real discomfort if positive!
What else could it be?
Few injuries show crescendo pain apart from a stress fracture. Muscle injuries and strains may occur between the bones, but you can often run with them, unlike a stress fracture.
Self-treatment
Rest! You may be able to swim or cycle as long as it doesn’t provoke pain, but running – which caused the injury – is out.
Medical treatment
This is as much psychological as physical – you need constant reassurance that time (probably about six weeks) will heal the injury. A plaster cast is rarely required. Biomechanical gait analysis may prevent further injury, though recurrence of a stress fracture at the original site is very uncommon.
Can you run through it?
No. Full stop.
Recovery time
Five per cent of stress fractures fail to heal as expected and some form of malunion occurs. A very small percentage need bone grafting.

 

[smutchin]

Weighed in at <69kg this morning for the first time since early October.

Then ran 21.19 at this morning's parkrun - my first short 21 since early October.

Coincidence? Maybe, maybe not.

 

[Richard A Thackeray]

Run '138' this morning
A very damp & chilly morning, with lots of mud once off the actual paths.
Started in the middle of the pack, tripped up by someone, by the time I 'got back on an even keel', I'd lost places & as boxed in around the lake
Oh well!!
Made up quite a few places as I went round the lake, according to daughter, who had come (& I was dropping off afterwards at a friends), I was 75th, on gaining the lake-side, & 36th at the exit from the lake!!!

Finished in a lowly 34th/266 @ 22:48
Seem to be getting slower, not quicker

Weighed in at <69kg this morning for the first time since early October.
Then ran 21.19 at this morning's parkrun

Damned fine time!!!

Wish I was back around a '21'

On Monday morning, I was 10stone 3 (whatever that is in that other system of measuring)

 

[Flying_Monkey]

I just got back from running the Shibuya Ekiden as part of our club's Masters B Team. It's a (unusually) short, fast 4-person relay of 2.9km per lap (around Yoyogi Park in Tokyo) and there are actually about 30 different categories each starting at different times from Middle School teams upwards. It was cold and windy (and dust blowing everywhere) but I managed 10.33 (3.38/km) for my lap, which was, I thought, pretty fast. Our A Team won the Masters race and we were 6th! Yay.

 

[Ian A]

Thirteen lumpy miles yesterday morning at an easy pace with a couple of people from our club. Last run over an hour before a fourteen mile hilly race in two weeks which I'm looking forward to and dreading in equal measures.

 

[Richard A Thackeray]

Hurrah!!

Back up to Haworth on Sunday, for the 'Stanbury Splash'

http://woodentops.org.uk/index.php?topic=stanbury&subtopic=home

Decided not to go
The sole of my left foot was quite sore this morning, & I didn't think it would have appreciated the hammering it would have got on the way out of the quarry, down the tarmac (public) road* & the (partially tarmacced) access road/track that we use in the first mile or so

Discretion being the better part of valour, etc.......


Oh well, it'll be better for the 'Withins' in October!!!!


*I mean the roads in these photos 3 - 7, plus 12-18 (then the return back to the cattle-grid)
https://plus.google.com/photos/110439573756197443848/albums/5967753108302763153?banner=pwa

 

[fatblokish]

Started running in September in preparation for a half-marathon in March. Having never run since "What time is it Mr Wolf?" in 1971, it is, shall I say, stupendously arduous.

Funny how, before a run, my body feels fine yet my mind is aquiver. After the run these characteristics somehow reverse. Not sure when the switchover actually occurs though...perhaps when I see my lungs outside my body.

Anyway, managed 8 miles this morning, which included about 10 minutes of walking as per The Programme, which will see me running almost 300 miles in preparation for a 13 mile run. Ho hum. Quick question, as a bit of a porker I seem able to manage 8 miles without any en-route sustenance, though I do consume about 250ml water. At what point should I start on the gels/jelly babies? Before 8 miles, when I'm hungry, when my shoes start to scuff on every stride or some other milestone?

ta

 

[Ian A]

Quick question, as a bit of a porker I seem able to manage 8 miles without any en-route sustenance, though I do consume about 250ml water. At what point should I start on the gels/jelly babies? Before 8 miles, when I'm hungry, when my shoes start to scuff on every stride or some other milestone?

ta

That's a tricky one and I think it's personal to each person and how you train, what intensity you are working at etc. Quick example I ran 13 miles on Saturday on water and a light breakfast of berries and a few nuts an hour or so beforehand. I ran 15 miles the weekend before and was on a gel around 8 miles when I started to go. Just one High 5 iso gel (watered down gel in a packet) on that run and was fine for the rest of the run. I was running a lot harder though. My aim is the old fat adaptation idea where you get used to not needing masses of carbs for low intensity workouts. I'm also a bit of a porker but body fat % doesn't really play into it (I don't think) apart from the amount of effort to get more weight around when you're running.

 

[smutchin]

My longest run to date is 14 miles round the woods (so nowhere to stop and buy any food or drink en route), and for that I just took my Camelbak filled with 1L plain water and a couple of gels, one of which I took about halfway round, the other I saved for emergency bonk rations (and didn't need it).

I probably don't take on enough fluid while running (and I'm the same with cycling) so I'm not a good example to follow, but I can sustain a moderate to high level of intensity for about an hour so don't bother taking anything with me if I'm likely to be out for less than an hour. But I don't very often run for much longer than an hour anyway.

 

[Richard A Thackeray]

'ParkRun 139' this morning. A very late (08:20) decision to go

Wish I hadn't, a few ways;
- started too far back, thus had to 'walk' for first 10 yards
- knee has just about 'got used' to new (ASICS) shoes, but because of the muddy conditions, I wore my old Nikes, & the knee felt bad
- last nights (16") Pizza was trying to make its presence known

Oh well, I guess planty of others had their own problems too
I passed a fair few others on the circuit, but I think only one passed me (& stayed ahead)

52nd place, at a (self-timed - at the moment) 22:54