Any Runners On Here??

[Ghost Donkey]

RE; 'Auld Lang Syne'

A horribly wet day, even the drive up there was almost in a cloud-burst, with sheet water on the M62 at points, & even worse on the final couple of roads from Leeming to Denholme.
Emma, who was following me, told me of the puddles that I was driving through, that then 'broke' over the roof of my car.

On arrival, looking over towards the 'way out', there was perhaps 200-300 yards visibility, with heavy rain & a strong wind.

I started too far back, as I was talking to someone, so lost more than a hundred places (to a normal position) before even leaving the Quarry

Going up the first track was more like running up a stream bed, but as for the descent to the beck, that was evil - people were losing footings & slithering 300 yards downhil on their backs!!!
The stream was fast-flowing & mid-thigh at one point, but thankfully only about 5 yards across (usually just above ankle-deep)

Once we'd reached the open moorland, the wind was very apparant, as it blew mud/water into faces

Jonny Brownlee passed me heading in the opposite direction, at the point where the 'return leg' rejoined the outwards (a 'balloon race' - up the string, round the balloon, & back down the string)

It was almost surreal to be chasing Batman (or one of them) over the Moors, having overtaken the Tetley Huntsman not long before

Here's the start out of the Quarry (which had above ankle-deep water in places)



And, there's photos via the main page;
http://woodentops.org.uk/index.php?topic=als&subtopic=home

https://plus.google.com/photos/1104...7443848/albums/5828196651975641809?banner=pwa


Wonder Woman (Jann Smith; Ilkley Harriers) probably wanted her charactors super powers at this point
http://www.photos-dsb.co.uk/ALS 2012/content/FV4Q2113_large.html


I just looked rather damp
http://www.photos-dsb.co.uk/ALS 2012/content/FV4Q2154_large.html


The results were a foregone conclusion, 376 finishers;
Jonny Brownlee 1st @43:10
Me = 170th @ 1.04:35

I had a good fancy dress costume ready for this one but bottled it at the last minute with the rain (I was staying with family 5 minutes away so could make a late decision). Didn't want to be wearing three layers of cotton in the wet. Wimp! I was cr@p. Got beaten by the sumo wrestlers . Thought this was generally easier going than Withins and Stoop with so many paths to run on. No thigh high mud! Loved it. II'm missing on the official results but was on the provisional ones. Didn't say anything as it hides my finish time shame.

 

[Richard A Thackeray]

Found this whilst browsing the 'FRA' forums;
http://www.perratt.me.uk/fun/fellrun.htm

Most of it is very true!!!



'Ghost'
How did you do on the provisionals then??

Yes, quite an enjoyable event, once the 'wall' was climbed after the stream/torrent was crossed!

 

[Ghost Donkey]

'Ghost'
How did you do on the provisionals then??

Yes, quite an enjoyable event, once the 'wall' was climbed after the stream/torrent was crossed!

The wrong side of 90 min. Yes, that bad! Hardly trained in six months and nobbled my ankle at Withins for a similar finish time there. Went quicker at the Stoop but still poor. I'll try and do something respectable next year. The only other race I'll be doing in that part of the world will be the Baildon Boundary way in April. That's my favourite half marathon out of the one's I've done so far.

 

[Richard A Thackeray]

Not running the 'Splash' on Sunday then??

 

[Ghost Donkey]

Not running the 'Splash' on Sunday then??

Can't make it unfortunately. I usually stay with my parents and they see their grand kids at the same time. They're away this weekend so no race for me. We obviously don't just visit when there's a race nearby but it's handy when I can do both.

 

[Richard A Thackeray]

Can't make it unfortunately. I usually stay with my parents and they see their grand kids at the same time. They're away this weekend so no race for me. We obviously don't just visit when there's a race nearby but it's handy when I can do both.

Oh well, can't have it always

Just hope the weather's not too bad, & everyone can actually get there!!

 

[Richard A Thackeray]

PECO was hard bloody work!, with a couple of silly stoppages early on the first lap, one due to being rooted between a Tree & a Holly bush
So unless you were at the front, you lost loads of time (like me!!!)
There were some awkward sections where I expected to possibly fall, or see them (semi-thawing mud on obliquely cross tarmac paths, & partially hidden stonework under softening grass)
Only managed a 148th, but what the heck!!

No results yet, but here's some pics to be going on with, I'm in images '163' & '312'
https://plus.google.com/photos/1121...ms/5833048042774321393?banner=pwa&gpsrc=pwrd1#


And another album;
https://picasaweb.google.com/110542502226353043514/PecoXCRace3BramleyFallWoods13113#

 

[lulubel]

If I didn't sweat to soaking levels now (menopausal) I might have tried your suggestion. As it is, I tend to have to take off all but one layer once I've stopped moving, running or cycling and mop up facial sweat til the body cools down. On the plus side, I've now turned down the central heating .

This is the problem with being menopausal - I'm in exactly the same situation. You sweat like mad, even when you're not particularly hot. I can be sitting at home, feeling a bit chilly and wanting to put a cardigan on, but I'm sweating even though I'm cold, so I stay cold because I don't want to keep washing my favourite cardi!

So, what happens when you're out running or cycling is you go for thin layers to avoid getting warm because you think that will make you sweat more. Actually, it doesn't. You're going to sweat just as much anyway, whether you're warm or not. So you stick with your thin layers, and you avoid wearing anything with any wind resistance, because the last thing you want to do is stop the wind from drying the sweat. This is what I did last winter, and my hands were frozen after every ride, and I had to sit in the bath for about half an hour to get the feeling back in them.

This winter, I'm wearing warmer, highly wicking layers, a good "windproof" jacket to stop the wind getting in and lowering my core temperature, and a buff to keep my neck warm (it also soaks up the sweat coming off the back of my hair and stops the back of my jacket getting so sodden). I come back soaked with sweat, exactly the same as last winter, but I don't have cold hands.

 

[wanda2010]

Morning lulubel!

I did a short run last night and wore a windproof jacket, fully zipped, plus two thin layers. Wore the usual two pairs of gloves and I was completely warm, but that's not a great test as I'd need to run for an hour to see if extra body layers helps the fingers. Tonight is hills and would be ideal for the test as the distance to/from the Common plus the hills would take more than an hour in total. Also, given the weather forecast maybe I should get out there tonight as that could be the last run for a few days

 

[wanda2010]

Nope.Wimped out.

Maybe in March

 

[MrJamie]

I've just been out for a nice run in the snow with my new HRM strap, worked flawlessly, seems the original one that came with my forerunner has died in just 2 months!

I love running through snow though, didn't seem slippy at all and was still wearing shorts despite a windy -3C here So quiet and peaceful and just a little more effort than normal, but everything looks nice and I feel like Stallone in Rocky

 

[wanda2010]

You are Richard's twin and I claim my £2.50 .

I'm going to try a short run on Sunday. I have trail shoes and XC shoes with spikes. Decisions. Decisions.

 

[Richard A Thackeray]

You are Richard's twin and I claim my £2.50 .

I'm going to try a short run on Sunday. I have trail shoes and XC shoes with spikes. Decisions. Decisions.

I ran to work & back today (again!!), but wore a pair of fell-shoes today (my old Mizuno Wave-Harriers)
They were fine, as it was a bit powdery, so nice & grippy for them (last nights run home in road-shoes was.... interesting & about a minute slower than normal)

But, with regard to 'spikes', I ordered a pair of these (& they arrived on Wednesday) from the company in the link
Should be great when it gets icy!!, with the Tungsten Carbide studs (a damned good deal too!)
http://www.sportsshoes.com/product/INO204/inov~8-oroc-340-running-shoes/

 

[MrJamie]

You are Richard's twin and I claim my £2.50 .

I'm going to try a short run on Sunday. I have trail shoes and XC shoes with spikes. Decisions. Decisions.

I think I miss or forget the £2.50 reference

Fresh snow is pretty good for running though, only a couple of inches of it here, but its surprisingly grippy so was fine in my normal trainers (Asics Cumulus currently), I think its the days after where you get compressed snow melting and refreezing as ice that it gets a bit dodgy. That's part of the reason I went today, to chicken out running over the weekend

I'd probably have ordered a pair of those shoes Richard, but I think my feet are one size too big for them.

 

[Richard A Thackeray]

I think its the days after where you get compressed snow melting and refreezing as ice that it gets a bit dodgy. That's part of the reason I went today, to chicken out running over the weekend

Yes, that's the issue, & why I bought the OROCs

Although, I ran home today, in a mixture of compacted, & powdered, snow about 90 seconds slower than normal (4 & 1/2 miles) in my Mizuno Wave-Harriers
Mine are yellow though; http://www.startfitness.co.uk/product.asp?strParents=4070,4071&CAT_ID=4077&P_ID=44916

I'd probably have ordered a pair of those shoes Richard, but I think my feet are one size too big for them.

Size 13?!?!!
they're a bit bigger fitting than normal Inov-8s (their fell-shoes anyway, can't comment on the road-shoes)