Another one bites the dust...

[Drago]

The answer is yes.

Type 2 diabetics can get hypoglycaemia - when they take too much glucose lowering medication (for example insulin). See this paper which explains that it may be a bigger problem than originally thought.

https://care.diabetesjournals.org/content/28/12/2948

That's a medication problem, not the condition itself. A healthy person could misuse the medication in the same manner and suffer the same effects.

@vickster Its Lyxumia (think I've spelled that correctly). She tells me it works in the same manner as GLP1 but is a daily thing. She was on metformin, but that wasn't doing the job. Problem is when she's Ill and they hammer her with steroids - the poor lass balloons and that's affected her health vis a vis diabetes. She's been 18 months since a bad relapse and all the excess weight has gone, but the damage is done. 14 tablets and 2 I injections daily, but I usually do the injections as her hands don't work so well so I can usually do a less painful job.

Fortunately, to date he hasn't knocked me off my bike or slapped me about too badly.

 

[tom73]

No, his drops to lower than what would be normal. Like 3. Has to test levels and adjust insulin accordingly. similar to T1 requirement

Most T2 do not require insulin so on the whole the stranded treatments are not likely to lower blood sugar to lower than normal levels.
Hence my reply which still stands.

If meds are not correctly taken or the condition not managed then insulin will result in possible lower than normal level.
But then what's low for one is not the same for others. Blood sugar range as with many other rangers are just a guide not set in stone or used in isolation.

 

[roadrash]

@Drago im taking the piss but did you really mean to type 21 injections daily

 

[Drago]

Nah, 2 injections. 3 if I'm feeling frisky

 

[vickster]

Most T2 do not require insulin so on the whole the stranded treatments are not likely to lower blood sugar to lower than normal levels.
Hence my reply which still stands.

If meds are not correctly taken or the condition not managed then insulin will result in possible lower than normal level.
But then what's low for one is not the same for others. Blood sugar range as with many other rangers are just a guide not set in stone or used in isolation.

Many more t2 would benefit from insulin too to get better control and reduce risk of complications from what I’ve heard numerous clinicians say but patients are unwilling for a long list of reasons.
Your reply followed mine, I thought it was a reply to me

Hardly relevant to the thread however

 

[tom73]

Oh wonder why maybe the main one being once you you start your stuffed no going back.
Drug companies already make a mint from NHS money better spent on preventing illness in the 1st place.

 

[hatler]

Would a petition "Permanently revoke the driving licence of anyone using their vehicle as a weapon" gain any traction do you think ?

 

[vickster]

Oh wonder why maybe the main one being once you you start your stuffed no going back.
Drug companies already make a mint from NHS money better spent on preventing illness in the 1st place.

In a perfect world obviously...however, it’s not just down to the NHS...lots of patients aren’t compliant long term, be it with lifestyle changes, medication (my father certainly wasn’t and he’s absolutely no fool...just a pretty typical Middle Aged professional bloke when diagnosed, working long hours, eating too much of the wrong thing, not exercising)

 

[Drago]

Would a petition "Permanently revoke the driving licence of anyone using their vehicle as a weapon" gain any traction do you think ?

Throw in 'death by' and youd get my signature.

 

[i hate hills]

and his Lawyer tries this

Hanley’s lawyer, Stephanie Varle, said her client had type 2 diabetes and experienced a sugar low during the incident, which could make his behaviour “unpredictable”. It was a “moment of madness”, she said.

Lets hope Hanley is following Stephanie next time he has a sugar low.

I don't understand how a 'lawyer' can try such a low handed tactic without there being a recourse to examine his/her credentials. That as an excuse is utterly ridiculous. if he had experienced a sugar low, surely he is knowingly unfit to drive.

as Drago said up thread, you shoot someone during a 'sugar low' there is no way you would get your gun license back so why a car?

One word to the lawyer , " BOLLOCKS " . He should be barred for coming out with this nonsense .

 

[Poacher]

and his Lawyer tries this

Hanley’s lawyer, Stephanie Varle, said her client had type 2 diabetes and experienced a sugar low during the incident, which could make his behaviour “unpredictable”. It was a “moment of madness”, she said.

Lets hope Hanley is following Stephanie next time he has a sugar low.

I don't understand how a 'lawyer' can try such a low handed tactic without there being a recourse to examine his/her credentials. That as an excuse is utterly ridiculous. if he had experienced a sugar low, surely he is knowingly unfit to drive.

as Drago said up thread, you shoot someone during a 'sugar low' there is no way you would get your gun license back so why a car?

One word to the lawyer , " BOLLOCKS " . He should be barred for coming out with this nonsense .

It's been one of those days for gender assumption again.

 

[Threevok]

If I was the Judge, I would have thrown that back at them, when sentencing

If his condition causes such incidents, then revoke his licence permanently

 

[mjr]

It's been one of those days for gender assumption again.

Were you assuming that Stephanie can only be for people of a female persuasion?

 

[Drago]

If I was the Judge, I would have thrown that back at them, when sentencing

If his condition causes such incidents, then revoke his licence permanently

Absolutely, you can bet he hasn't informed the DVLA of his poor control of his condition.

 

[raleighnut]

I am neither medical nor do I have any experience of diabetes, so I ask this as a genuinely open question.... is it possible for the treatment for type 2 diabetes to produce low blood sugar?

No, unless you're on Insulin,

My father who is Type 2 and on insulin (has been for years) certainly gets hypos if he doesn't eat (often) enough

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.diabetes.org.uk/guide-to-diabetes/complications/hypos

that's type 1 I'd say