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The two sides here are Ben and the Ambo driver.

1st Ben. If every road user reacted to me on blue lights at the same speed and in the same manner Ben did, I'd be very happy. As soon as he noticed, he stopped. Thats more than good enough for me. Many road users don't even notice or bother tbh, and most drivers think just showing down to 15mph is fine, and leave me crawling behind them with no safe overtaking opportunity. @benb keep doing what you did with thanks.

The Ambo driver. Too much speed through the junction. We should treat every junction, on green or red, as if it's a give way and we *might* have to stop. He didn't even brake and carried far too much speed through it. That's his main problem. The failure to slow has him charging through the gap, getting closer than he and Ben would have liked, because his speed is so high he didn't have an out and had to keep piling it on so he could get through before Ben got there.

My final word would be this. He is someone doing the wrong things for the right reasons. It's no excuse to bad driving, but it needs bearing in mind this isn't a deliberate close pass, or someone oblivious. Worth reporting? Yes, I can see that. They won't be losing their job or their driving grade over it* but it wouldn't hurt for a bit of review and reflection. Worth posting on YouTube? That's the one I'm not so sure of. I get the normal reasons - unlike many, I think highlighting the many issues from bad driving, that in reality would never see a court yet still needs addressing is not a bad thing, and am in favour of helmet cams. In this case though, you have an identified route to complain that will identify the driver, and will undoubtedly have corrective action taken, so I'd have made the report but left it off public viewing.


*assuming a relatively complaint and accident free history of course!
 
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GrasB

Veteran
Location
Nr Cambridge
He was a minor misjudgement away from a collision and it's all okay?
To expand on this. At that speed the driver was a minor misjudgement away from a incident which would have prevented them from attending what ever emergency the driver had been called to & even worse may well have required someone emergency services to attend their incident. However, at half that speed even a heavy kerb impact would have been unlikely to do any significant damage to the vehicle, it also wouldn't have left the OP unsettled.
 
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benb

benb

Evidence based cyclist
Location
Epsom
My final word would be this. He is someone doing the wrong things for the right reasons. It's no excuse to bad driving, but it needs bearing in mind this isn't a deliberate close pass, or someone oblivious. Worth reporting? Yes, I can see that. They won't be losing their job or their driving grade over it* but it wouldn't hurt for a bit of review and reflection. Worth posting on YouTube? That's the one I'm not so sure of. I get the normal reasons - unlike many, I think highlighting the many issues from bad driving, that in reality would never see a court yet still needs addressing is not a bad thing, and am in favour of helmet cams. In this case though, you have an identified route to complain that will identify the driver, and will undoubtedly have corrective action taken, so I'd have made the report but left it off public viewing.

I completely agree with the bold part.
The driver isn't publicly identifiable from this, so I don't see anything particularly wrong with publishing it. IMO.
 

GrasB

Veteran
Location
Nr Cambridge
You're talking crap. You seem to be saying any close pass is by definition OK as long as no contact was made.
Which is obviously drivel.
Actually I think he's talking about the near miss on the pedestrian refuge kerb rather than your close pass. But the same thing applies, the fact there wasn't any collision didn't make it okay.
 

Lemond

Senior Member
Location
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Actually I think he's talking about the near miss on the pedestrian refuge kerb rather than your close pass. But the same thing applies, the fact there wasn't any collision didn't make it okay.

Also doesn't mean that there was anything wrong with the pass either.
 
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benb

benb

Evidence based cyclist
Location
Epsom
No. I'm simply saying that I don't share your opinion that the ambulance was "way too close".
Well, as I was there and you weren't, I can safely say you're talking out of your bottom.

Also doesn't mean that there was anything wrong with the pass either.
A pass that barely misses a cyclist and/or barely misses a curb/traffic island is wrong, no matter what.
 
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