Accie's fake Rolex.

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So which one is the best, or doesn't it matter? 🤔 The top/oldest one was made in 1960 by the way.
There was a big step up from the 4 digit references to the 5 digit references so, purely technically, the newer one is better. There are the odd outliers, with known movement issues for example, but the movement in the 14010 isn’t one of those. It’s not till you get to some of the 32xx movements.

Aesthetically the older one has a slightly dressier look. Up to you as to what you want out of it.
 
Other than multiple dive-watch owning me!

:okay:

I sometimes wear my dad's Longines, but really, it doesn't sit well - the lug-to-lug is near enough the width of my wrist, and the shape is just too flat. Maybe it's different with ladies' watches. My sweet spot is 25 - 27mm. Any smaller, and I need to get my glasses out! :laugh:
 

sevenfourate

Devotee of OCD
Other than multiple dive-watch owning me!

How big do you run to ? I'm a big-guy too. My biggest is a 50mm and something like a 14mm deep (?) case. Whilst the size doesn't swamp my wrist / look ridiculous against my hands; the having a Stainless strap with a reasonably loose fit as i generally prefer does occasionally 'grate' along with the weight such a big watch brings.....
 

Drago

Legendary Member
I'm a 40+ mm man. Tudor x2, Doxa 300t, Vostok 1967, Bulova Devil diver...the only exception is my Traser which is a bit smaller. I like to leave the house looking ready tackle anything although I still take them off to clean the car.
 

sevenfourate

Devotee of OCD
I'm a 40+ mm man. Tudor x2, Doxa 300t, Vostok 1967, Bulova Devil diver...the only exception is my Traser which is a bit smaller. I like to leave the house looking ready tackle anything although I still take them off to clean the car.

I'd say 44mm is my preferred. The 50mm is an exception. Ready for anything i like as a description; and would nicely describe a Stainless Datejust that's pretty much my daily and i've had eons. And takes all normal life dishes out and absorbs it without looking like it really should.....

Unlike a certain guy who works on my cars - and insists on always wearing a Solid Gold Rolex. Even while reaching into some far-flung corner of the engine bay and bouncing it off the rocker cover, manifold, alternator etc etc as he reaches lower and lower down. Actually makes me wince watching it.....
 
That was pretty well much the ballpark for gents' watches at the time - my dad's early 1960s Longines is 35mm minus the crown.

Today, that's considered a ladies' size, but then again, not everyone wants to wear something the size of a dinner plate on their wrist...
I’ve got a couple of older watches myself around 35 and 36mm.

Was just making acci aware as it’s often something a buyer overlooksthen get disappointed when it arrives as they were expecting something in the 40mm range.
 
Unlike a certain guy who works on my cars - and insists on always wearing a Solid Gold Rolex. Even while reaching into some far-flung corner of the engine bay and bouncing it off the rocker cover, manifold, alternator etc etc as he reaches lower and lower down. Actually makes me wince watching it.....
Sure it’s not an acci fake one? 😂
 
I’ve got a couple of older watches myself around 35 and 36mm.

Was just making acci aware as it’s often something a buyer overlooksthen get disappointed when it arrives as they were expecting something in the 40mm range.

It's a common "fall flat on face" moment when buying vintage... :blush:

It's funny how things evolve though. I've my grandad's mid-1930s Tissot tank, which I do wear. That's got 18mm lugs, the same as my square Seiko Salvia, and the case width is near enough the same too. In the 1930s, that Seiko would more than likely have been sold as a man's watch, whereas by 1971, which is when it was actually made, it is definitely a ladies' watch. And now, they're *both* considered somewhat on the small side.

Think it goes back to the whole debate over tool vs fashion accessory and the whole "look at me" thing.
 

Drago

Legendary Member
One of my nephews recently bought a Hublot watch online. It's lovely but I'm sure it's a ladies watch but he wont admit it and is too embarrassed to send it back
 

AndyRM

XOXO
Location
North Shields
A genuine question - what does a watch have to do to be a man's watch, or a ladies? If it's a size thing I don't follow, as I've narrower wrists than a lot of the women I know. Styling I kind of understand.
 

Profpointy

Legendary Member
Mmmm, another Air King here, for £3,999. 1997 as well, not 1960. Does that make it better than the one I have my eye on? 🤔

https://www.ramsdensjewellery.co.uk/product/rolex-air-king-pre-owned-watch-ref-14010-46892

Though no papers and no Rolex box either!

Cripes £3k for an old one, seemingly a mainstream production one at that. How much is a new one ? Fair enough certain old things are deemed antique or whatever, but if they are still making them, or making something very similar, hopefully better ...
 
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