A week without a helmet.

[Fab Foodie]

indeed. Fatalities are well down.

Spoilsport ... coming on here, spouting yer facts ....

 

[Tin Pot]

Helmets should be mandatory at all times for everyone above the age of 75 and below the age of 7.

You never know when they're going to roll out of bed and crack theIr skulls open.

 

[Racing roadkill]

This is one of the few times that a helmet thread has been useful to me (or anyone else, I suspect); I'm a sometimes lid wearer, whilst I never wear one touring or going to the shops etc. I almost always do when going on a 'proper' ride or club run. This discussion has made me question why I'm happy to hurtle down an alpine descent with only a cloth cap on the old noggin but wear a helmet at other times.
I've read a fair bit on the subject but It was racing roadkill's posts that settled the matter for me. I now intend to dispense with a cycle helmet for the majority of the time. I can't chuck it in the bin as I'm contractually required to wear one whilst delivering cycle training with the Bikeability scheme I currently work for, but apart from that a cap will be my head covering of choice from now on.
I shall now be perusing the interweb for some stylish, medium weight, peaked head wear for the winter.

I'm glad I've made you decide to join the Darwin club.

 

[Racing roadkill]

Out of casual curiosity, exactly how does wishing someone dead in a nasty accident fit in with the CC tag line: "a fun and friendly online cycling community"?

I didn't wish anyone dead, in a nasty accident. I just pointed out that their post was monumentally daft, and when it ends in tears, I won't be shedding any.

 

[Drago]

To be honest there's a large cadre of abusive bucketmouthed internet tough guys who do the "fun and friendly" tag line no justice. I just block the lot of em.

 

[Racing roadkill]

To be honest there's a large cadre of abusive bucketmouthed internet tough guys who do the "fun and friendly" tag line no justice. I just block the lot of em.

True, I'm up to seventeen ignores. This thread has identified the one's I don't wish to converse with, like no other. 17 out of all the folk who use this site is pretty low in percentage terms, but it just goes to show you, that you have to keep it in perspective. A shouty minority, can give a false impression if you're not careful.

 

[User6179]

True, I'm up to seventeen ignores. This thread has identified the one's I don't wish to converse with, like no other. 17 out of all the folk who use this site is pretty low in percentage terms, but it just goes to show you, that you have to keep it in perspective. A shouty minority, can give a false impression if you're not careful.

17 , I think I would need to start to question myself if I got to 5 or 6 .

Read some of the other helmet debates and you will see why you are getting pelters for your view , I always wear a helmet btw because it makes me feel safer .

 

[Flick of the Elbow]

Before this thread started I was against helmet compulsion. But now having experienced at first hand the aggression of the anti helmet lobby my views have changed. In fact I am now going to write to my MSPs and MP stating my support for compulsion and requesting that Holyrood and Westminster vote on it as a priority. I'll ask them to ban flashing front lights too.

 

[User6179]

Before this thread started I was against helmet compulsion. But now having experienced at first hand the aggression of the anti helmet lobby my views have changed. In fact I am now going to write to my MSPs and MP stating my support for compulsion and requesting that Holyrood and Westminster vote on it as a priority. I'll ask them to ban flashing front lights too.

I would say more a Mafia than an Anti helmet lobby , they do have more to lose though !
Compulsion would be a bad thing imo .

 

[ufkacbln]

Where is the ant-helmet lobby?

There is an anti unsubstantiated emotive tripe lobby

There is also an anti melon lobby

But you will have to give examples where anyone here has been anti-helmet

 

[Fab Foodie]

I'm glad I've made you decide to join the Darwin club.

How pleasant ....

 

[User6179]

Where is the ant-helmet lobby?

There is an anti unsubstantiated emotive tripe lobby

There is also an anti melon lobby

But you will have to give examples where anyone here has been anti-helmet

Maybe not this thread but User posts anti helmet stuff without much to back it up and have you not did the same ( snag points ,etc)?!

 

[Fab Foodie]

I would say more a Mafia than an Anti helmet lobby , they do have more to lose though !
Compulsion would be a bad thing imo .

There is no anti helmet lobby.
There is an anti-compulsion lobby though on the basis that compulsion is bad for cycling and safety. There is evidence for this.

If you wish to wear a helmet that's fine. If you wish to require others to do so you had better find some good evidence for your belief. I wish you luck with the latter.

What we have with for example racing road kill here is nothing more than a zealot whose views are based on one unfortunate experience which as anecdata only proves nothing, certainly not the case for compulsion.

 

[ufkacbln]

Maybe not this thread but User posts anti helmet stuff without much to back it up and have you not did the same ( snag points ,etc)?!

Countering the bizarre and untrue claims of helmet performance by some of the compulsion lobby with evidenced facts is not anti helmet.

It is offering a reality check that allows people to make an informed choice

Of course if you are an evangelical compulsionist then merely stating that helmet design does have limitations and choice of any form (never mind an informed one) are both unacceptable, and far easier to dismiss as anti-helmet rather than discuss the points raised

 

[User6179]

Countering the bizarre and untrue claims of helmet performance by some of the compulsion lobby with evidenced facts is not anti helmet.

It is offering a reality check that allows people to make an informed choice

Of course if you are an evangelical compulsionist then merely stating that helmet design does have limitations and choice of any form (never mind an informed one) are both unacceptable, and far easier to dismiss as anti-helmet rather than discuss the points raised

But there is no point discussing the claims unless there is data to back it up , if you have no scientific data to back up your claims then it is not fact !

You have a go at the pro helmet mob for making unsubstantiated claims then the antis do the exact same thing , that's why the argument goes round in a circle .