A pavement parking odyssey

[glasgowcyclist]

@Drago and @glasgowcyclist - they're less likely to get their precious car damaged / wing mirror knocked. And don't care about anyone or anything but themselves.

Maybe not on the road side…

 

[lazybloke]

Not just parking on the kerb... Also blocking driveways. Annoying when the dropped kerb us shared by 2 houses and you get blocked in by a delivery next door.
Usually only for a minute, but Tesco deliveries take much longer if its a weekly shop.

 

[icowden]

They do that round my way in lay-bys that are 6m wide. And down on the main road, where parking bays are clearly outlined, some muppets still put half their cars on the footway. I really don’t understand it.

Half the car you say? Pah! Round my way they just put the whole bl*&&y thing there.

 

[DCLane]

@icowden - that should be a 3 points and £100 offence as they shouldn't be alongside the zig-zags. If the police can be bothered. In West Yorkshire, certainly Kirklees, they aren't.

I do wonder what their liabilities would be if someone walked over it, or rode into it, as it's a shared path.

 

[Drago]

DClane is correct. It doesn't matter which side of the road markings you park, you still commit the offence/non compliance (delete as applicable).

 

[icowden]

that should be a 3 points and £100 offence as they shouldn't be alongside the zig-zags. If the police can be bothered. In West Yorkshire, certainly Kirklees, they aren't.

Same here. Cars are parked there *every* evening from 5pm onwards. It started during lockdown as they are almost all delivery drivers servicing the chippy and the pizza place. I cannot get the Police or Council interested.

 

[Pale Rider]

hat should be a 3 points and £100 offence as they shouldn't be alongside the zig-zags.

I think it might be six points now.

However, there could be an argument the offence is not made out because the car is not on the carriageway.

I reckon it's run out of petrol and the owner is waiting for @icowden to whirr along in his EV with a gallon can in the boot.

 

[icowden]

DClane is correct. It doesn't matter which side of the road markings you park, you still commit the offence/non compliance (delete as applicable).

The wider question is how do you actually get anyone interested in doing something about it.

 

[Drago]

I think it might be six points now.

However, there could be an argument the offence is not made out because the car is not on the carriageway.

The marking is enforceable from the centre of the carriageway to the rear of the footway, at least in England and Wales.

 

[captain nemo1701]

Motornormativity. They think they're being kind by leaving the road clearer for other motorists. No one else enters their thoughts.

MKM grab truck today completely blocking a roadside cycleway. Driver gestured to suggest I bump up a low kerb and ride across someone's neat lawn to get around. I put my forearms on the bars, pointed at the camera and waited for him to move. The camera wasn't on but he didn't know that and it'll keep him guessing for a few days.

Happened to me outside our Chippy. Wide road, free space, twonk goes up onto pavement and stops 2m from me with a look on his face of 'why are you there?'. Its partly laziness, trying to get as close as possible to the shop door thus minimising distance & physical effort. Have actually seen cars wholly drive (all 4 wheels) onto the pavement to do this

 

[stephec]

@Drago and @glasgowcyclist - they're less likely to get their precious car damaged / wing mirror knocked. And don't care about anyone or anything but themselves.

This.

There's a little car near me (Nissan Micra type sized thing) that somehow manages to block at least half the pavement, when it parks passenger side to the kerb the driver's mirror is folded in, when it's the other way round the driver makes the effort to walk round and fold the passenger mirror in, but doesn't bother to fold the driver's mirror in on the pavement side.

As it's on one of my regular running routes I always have to push past it and rearrange the offending mirror.

 

[fossyant]

My BIL had issues with his neighbour parking their cars over his driveway. Sis and BIL have a car each, which fits side by side on their drive. All others have two car drives. Neighbours have 4 cars, but instead of blocking their own drive, they block his. He asked them a few times not to block him in, their response was that they would be blocking themselves in.

Anyway he paid the council for a 'H' across his drive. Low and behold, they parked over it, blocking him in. He took a picture and sent it to the council and the neighbours got a parking fine.

Too top it off, they moved, only to start slagging him off to the guys selling them a new house. In walked BIL as he was the site manager. LOL.

 

[Drago]

Curiously, it's not always an offence to obstruct a driveway.

It's an offence to obstruct a highway, so if your car is on your drive and you can't access the highway because some nodder has parked across the drive then the offence is complete.

Conversely, there is no offence of obstructing a driveway. If you've just arrived home from work and can't access your driveway because of aforesaid nodder there is no offence (notwithstanding any local laws regarding dropped kerbs that the dibble have no power to enforce anyway.)

Usual England and Wales caveat applies.

 

[ebikeerwidnes]

This.

There's a little car near me (Nissan Micra type sized thing) that somehow manages to block at least half the pavement, when it parks passenger side to the kerb the driver's mirror is folded in, when it's the other way round the driver makes the effort to walk round and fold the passenger mirror in, but doesn't bother to fold the driver's mirror in on the pavement side.

As it's on one of my regular running routes I always have to push past it and rearrange the offending mirror.

WOuldn't it be a shame if you had to genetly touch the mirror to get past and it just so happened that you fingers were covered in something like gooey at the time
maybe chocolate


anyway

 

[Richard A Thackeray]

We live opposite a junior School, so hence it's busy here at the appropriate times(1)
Earlier in the week, a woman parked over the driveway gates (2), at about 14:45, wandered off, to chat with other mums at the gates
At 15:10, it was still there (3)
Feeling slightly belligerent, I went out, opened the gates, got SWMBO's Q3 thing, out of the garage, as though I was wanting to leave
15:15, she returns
"It's a good job that I wasn't in a rush, with you parked over my gates, or had any kind of emergency call on the phone"

If she'd apologised, or even been confrontational, it would have been fine
All she said was.........."Yes" & got in the car

As @Drago states, it's not illegal, but courtesy ought to dictate that you don't park over a drive, & leave it unattended

I was very tempted, if the house had been locked, to get in it & follow her, see where she lived, wait till (hopefully) she parked on her driveway, & then parked over it. & gone for a walk


1. Summer holidays start; Wednesday 26th July
2. My daughters junior school (they called it a 'Prep school!) was in a residential area, but I can't recall ever seeing a parent park over a driveway
3. I'm sure she's parked there before