A pavement parking odyssey

[Alex321]

From the link you posted on the HMRC website,
A business journey is a trip:

• made as part of work (such as a service engineer travelling between appointments)
• to a temporary workplace

Vans used for ‘insignificant’ private journeys are exempt, for example making a slight detour to pick up a newspaper on the way to work.

Yes, but regular commuting to the same place is not a business journey, and is taxable.

If (as seems to be the case with you), the job entails visiting a variety of sites, then the journey from home to the first, and back home from the last are not taxable, as they class as "temporary" places of work.

I would imagine that the majority of those who have work vans will fall under that rule. There isn't much point in giving somebody a work van unless they are going to be traveling around for work quite a bit.

 

[Drago]

It can save companies a lot of spade and money not having to have facilities to park them up on site overnight, and many will be allowed to take them home for that reason alone.

And then they park them on the footway.

 

[DRM]

Yes, but regular commuting to the same place is not a business journey, and is taxable.

If (as seems to be the case with you), the job entails visiting a variety of sites, then the journey from home to the first, and back home from the last are not taxable, as they class as "temporary" places of work.

I would imagine that the majority of those who have work vans will fall under that rule. There isn't much point in giving somebody a work van unless they are going to be traveling around for work quite a bit.

That’s exactly what I’m saying, also the need for on call cover to be provided too, but You can opt in to have private use of the van, this is one of the reasons double cab pick ups became very popular, was just a tax fiddle, the bik for private use on a van was peanuts compared to a car, a double cab pick up was classed as a commercial vehicle, hence the same low tax demand as a van, the government sorted that out by upping the tax payable for private use on all commercial vehicles, when these pick ups should have been classed as a car for tax purposes as they generally never carried a damn thing, or were used as work vans

 

[captain nemo1701]

Rear of Easton Leisure Centre in Bristol. Despite new signs saying No Parking at any time....

And yes, it has its own car park.

 

[Alex321]

Rear of Easton Leisure Centre in Bristol. Despite new signs saying No Parking at any time....
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And yes, it has its own car park.

There were no signs in June 2021, when that photo was taken.

 

[figbat]

There were no signs in June 2021, when that photo was taken.

There were double yellow lines though (although broken up and probably unenforceable as a consequence).

 

[captain nemo1701]

There were no signs in June 2021, when that photo was taken.

I passed it on the no 49 bus last week and there are signs. In fact, pavement driving & parking has been an issue here for a while.

 

[mjr]

It can save companies a lot of spade and money not having to have facilities to park them up on site overnight, and many will be allowed to take them home for that reason alone.

And then they park them on the footway.

Do DVSA still accept reports of illegally dumped commercial vehicles? www.gov.uk/guidance/report-a-lorry-bus-or-coach-driver-or-company#report-the-driver-or-company isn't explicit.

 

[Drago]

They might do.

However, for coaches and lorries, stuff that requires an operators licence, a report with photo to the traffic commissioner. The TC's don't foxtrot about and have powers to revoke operators licences and frequently do, so a business on the receiving end of an official bollixing from a TC usually can't mend their ways quickly enough.

 

[Accy cyclist]

I think this (taken yesterday) is the narrowest gap I've seen/been left with, on my way from flat to car! Yes, 'you can walk on the grass', but that's not the point!

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My neighbour's obsessive behaviour about the newly opened yoga studio across the road from us is beginning to annoy me! She keeps going on about those using it parking on the pavement. As I pulled up in my car this evening she was waiting to confront some vehicle owners who'd parked outside her flat. She said to me "A friend who was dropping something off at my flat had to park on the corner as they couldn't park outside my door"! "That lot over there think they are something"! "Well, I'll waiting for them to come out so I can tell them not to park there and if they carry on I'll key their cars"!! Seriously woman give it a rest I thought. Yes, they half park on the pavement, but it's only for an hour or so and only 3 or 4 nights a week. The ladies who use the place are always friendly and polite. When she said that I disappeared as I don't want them thinking I'm as bad as her. Someone wanted to buy the building and turn it into ANOTHER take-away. Imagine the noise, the rubbish, the anti-social behaviour and of course the pavement parking that would've brought to the area! I'm going to go across to the yoga place tomorrow and tell them to ignore her ranting. I don't want the place to close because of my neighbour's constant complaining, then that manky take-away might become a reality!

As for her "they had to park on the corner", regarding her friend dropping something off, as you can see in the pic' above, she moaned that they had to walk a whole what must be 12 to 15 yards from that corner to her flat, a few feet past that parked up black BMW. Putting my man thoughts hat on, I think there's a bit of jealousy regarding my neighbour's behaviour. Not only jealousy because most are attractive women, but the other night one turned up in a convertible Mercedes that must've cost about 70/80 grand. It's nice to see such vehicles outside my flat, even if they are half parked on the pavement!!

 

[Drago]

What annoys me about pavement parking is the manner in which it seems to have become automatic behaviour.

Walking back with Bruce this morning I witness a small van pulled up with a delivery for a neighbour. Despite the road being both empty of parked cars and plenty wide the muppet pulled up two wheels on the footway. I mean why, FFS?

 

[glasgowcyclist]

What annoys me about pavement parking is the manner in which it seems to have become automatic behaviour.

Walking back with Bruce this morning I guess a small van pulled up with a delivery for a neighbour. Despite the road being both empty of parked cars and plenty wide the muppet pulled up two wheels on the footway. I mean why, FFS?

They do that round my way in lay-bys that are 6m wide. And down on the main road, where parking bays are clearly outlined, some muppets still put half their cars on the footway. I really don’t understand it.

 

[mjr]

What annoys me about pavement parking is the manner in which it seems to have become automatic behaviour.

Walking back with Bruce this morning I guess a small van pulled up with a delivery for a neighbour. Despite the road being both empty of parked cars and plenty wide the muppet pulled up two wheels on the footway. I mean why, FFS?

Motornormativity. They think they're being kind by leaving the road clearer for other motorists. No one else enters their thoughts.

MKM grab truck today completely blocking a roadside cycleway. Driver gestured to suggest I bump up a low kerb and ride across someone's neat lawn to get around. I put my forearms on the bars, pointed at the camera and waited for him to move. The camera wasn't on but he didn't know that and it'll keep him guessing for a few days.

 

[DCLane]

@Drago and @glasgowcyclist - they're less likely to get their precious car damaged / wing mirror knocked. And don't care about anyone or anything but themselves.

 

[C R]

@Drago and @glasgowcyclist - they're less likely to get their precious car damaged / wing mirror knocked. And don't care about anyone or anything but themselves.

Unless some thoughtless pedestrian squeezes past the car carelessly and their coat zip puller happens to slide along their bodywork. Not that I would ever do that, obviously.