A pavement parking odyssey

[Bazzer]

Taken at the top of the local high street this afternoon.

Yes,ok he was unloading from his van into a shop,but he could've parked in front of the shop (out of view),not on the zebra crossing zig zags,but that'd mean having to walk a few more yards.
He actually got stroppy and asked if i was photographing him. Before i could reply he told me to f..k off. I called him a choice name in return and left it at that.🧐

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Online report it. Pavement parking and within zig zags.

 

[Scotty55]

Dead easy solution. Quick update to the law to state that any vehicle which, when parked, is not 100% on the highway, is not covered by any insurance. Any damage to the vehicle is 100% the driver’s responsibility, without comeback.

 

[snorri]

Dead easy solution. Quick update to the law

Quick updates to the law are not recommended.
Out of the frying pan into the fire comes to mind.

 

[Drago]

Parking on a controlled zone. Thats still an offence the police can deal with, rather than a decriminalised non-complaince that the parking Taliban handle. There are no circumstances where that is acceptable.

 

[ebikeerwidnes]

Just a quick nite that if everyone round here stops parking on the pavement then half the bus routes will grind to a halt and Fire Engines won;t be able to get to a lot of houses

Of course - if all the roads were widened that would help - but knocking down half of every street of terraced houses would be a problem with a local election coming up

and, of course, it would also help if people only owned a number of cars that they could park - but good luck implementing that one as well.

I agree that pavement parking is a bad thing - but it cannot be enforced in a lot of areas

 

[Drago]

All those objections were raised when pavement parking was banned in London. Over 40 years later the doomsday-impassable-terraced-street-roads-deathkill-slaughter-madness has still yet to appear. The most densely populated metropolis in the country manages OK with such a rule, so there is no reason why the rest of the country cannot also do so.

It's looking increasingly like it will be banned, and people will simply have to get over it and park somewhere else. It will be easily enforced when the dibble tow them away, and they will.

Dencent, thoughtful folk the country over already do just fine. The only difference is that the selfish and lazy will be compelled to follow suit.

 

[Seevio]

Dead easy solution. Quick update to the law to state that any vehicle which, when parked, is not 100% on the highway, is not covered by any insurance. Any damage to the vehicle is 100% the driver’s responsibility, without comeback.

Pedant alert! Nearly every vehicle in this thread was parked 100% on the highway.

 

[Drago]

It should be the place you can legally park in public is wholly within a marked parking bay.

 

[ebikeerwidnes]

It's looking increasingly like it will be banned, and people will simply have to get over it and park somewhere else. It will be easily enforced when the dibble tow them away, and they will.

'The Dibble' just don;t have the manpower it would need - even to just do the paperwork
My wife's old house was on a council estate - the main road through it is a major bus route and it could not work if people parked on the road because it is too narrow
OK - simple solution - double yellow lines right down one side of the road - and parking wardens booking anyone parked there 24 hours a day
result - VERY Labour area - massive political problem and a field day for local newspapers
and have you seen the mess Liverpool is in at the moment???

not much better here - someone at the end of our estate has started parking their pickup thingy on the main road because it was blocking the junction - it has resulted in intermittent congestion most of the day - ONE CAR!!!
and along the populated part of that main road - everyone else parks on the pavement!!!

 

[snorri]

'The Dibble' just don;t have t.............and along the populated part of that main road - everyone else parks on the pavement!!!

Too much negativity.
We need solutions and not excuses for the storage of private property on the public road transport network.

 

[Drago]

'The Dibble' just don;t have the manpower it would need - even to just do the paperwork
My wife's old house was on a council estate - the main road through it is a major bus route and it could not work if people parked on the road because it is too narrow
OK - simple solution - double yellow lines right down one side of the road - and parking wardens booking anyone parked there 24 hours a day
result - VERY Labour area - massive political problem and a field day for local newspapers
and have you seen the mess Liverpool is in at the moment???

not much better here - someone at the end of our estate has started parking their pickup thingy on the main road because it was blocking the junction - it has resulted in intermittent congestion most of the day - ONE CAR!!!
and along the populated part of that main road - everyone else parks on the pavement!!!

The paperwork is a simple e form, filled out on their force issue smart device. It takes a couple of minutes and the bobbies or PCSOs usually complete it while waiting for the tow to arrive. Even better, its likely the powers will also be made available to carncils, who'll chomp at the bit to have a slice of that.

We can object all we want, try and pick fault...the simple fact is it has worked very well in London for over 40 years. That being the case, there is no reason it will not work in other parts of the UK.

It is probably coming, we need to just get over it. As decent, conscientious members of society I would like to think that none of us indulge in the practice ourselves.

 

[ebikeerwidnes]

The paperwork is a simple e form, filled out on their force issue smart device. It takes a couple of minutes and the bobbies or PCSOs usually complete it while waiting for the tow to arrive. Even better, its likely the powers will also be made available to carncils, who'll chomp at the bit to have a slice of that.

We can object all we want, try and pick fault...the simple fact is it has worked very well in London for over 40 years. That being the case, there is no reason it will not work in other parts of the UK.

It is probably coming, we need to just get over it. As decent, conscientious members of society I would like to think that none of us indulge in the practice ourselves.

It does annoy me that when I have moved house one of my criteria has always been the ability to park all predictable cars
then you find someone with room for 2 cars on their drive but have 4 cars - all on the road/pavement and often on a bend or something. At times the entry to this estate is almost blocked with vans and cars!
The house next to my Wife's son's house has 6 cars living there - in a small 3 bed semi!!!

 

[Bazzer]

@Accy cyclist

https://reportitonline.lancashire.police.uk/NdsPublicEngagementUi/index?force=lancashireconstabulary

 

[glasgowcyclist]

if everyone round here stops parking on the pavement then half the bus routes will grind to a halt and Fire Engines won;t be able to get to a lot of houses

This type of excuse is disingenuous. Drivers who annexe footways for themselves offer this as if they're performing some sort of civic duty, of benefit to the community. It's bollocks. They are disguising their personal convenience as concern for public safety.

Park legally and you won't block traffic or pedestrians.

 

[ebikeerwidnes]

This type of excuse is disingenuous. Drivers who annexe footways for themselves offer this as if they're performing some sort of civic duty, of benefit to the community. It's bollocks. They are disguising their personal convenience as concern for public safety.

Park legally and you won't block traffic or pedestrians.

Not always true
A road near where my wife grew up is a main road through an estate
if a car - or a string of cars - is parked by the side of the road then cars can only pass one at a time
hence the road becomes pretty much one way at a time
and it is a main bus route
OK - the council could widen the road by narrowing the pavement (there is enough room) but that would take a while
It is the same here - but not quite as bad - but to allow for cars to be parked on the road would require work from the council

So - enforcing it is practical - but ideally there should be warning and funding to allow for road widening where needed on bus routes etc.

Oh - and while they are at it they could chuck a few cycle lanes in maybe??

A lot of the problems are on estates where they were built in a certain time span where the planners didn't think 'poorer' people would ever need a car - hence no allowance for driveways. Where I grew up you can see the difference in planning ideas based on the expected 'type of people' that would live there and the time the places was planned.