2021 Brompton C-Line Explore

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wafter

wafter

I like steel bikes and I cannot lie..
Location
Oxford
So... while the full-car-commute in was uncharacteristically mild, the ride out was numbingly horrendous; parked on the ring road, parked on the A34, parked in Kidlington... I simply cannot handle this sh*te and the only way I can deal with the situation is to remove myself from it completely.

Further, using the car today again made me feel very much like an outsider - using my insular little rage-box to nip in and out of the outskirts of the city; interactions with those around me mostly limited to (usually deserved) acts of hostility... while conversely the bike allows me to journey in and out through town with all the connection and positive interactions with others that brings.

I've done this commute for getting on for 2.5 years; with it becoming markedly worse in the past nine months, give or take. In this time it seems to have profoundly damaged me and I'm no longer willing or able to tolerate this bollocks - this is absolutely no way to live. As such it seems like it's Brompton throughout the winter or bust...
 
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ExBrit

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Personally if I'm going to find myself in conflict with someone who's in a two ton metal box, I'd rather be in a two ton metal box (or three ton if possible) myself. I wish I could bike to work, but I wouldn't want to share the road with people who drive like me. Plus the 5000' climb on the way home isn't very motivating.

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wafter

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I like steel bikes and I cannot lie..
Location
Oxford
Personally if I'm going to find myself in conflict with someone who's in a two ton metal box, I'd rather be in a two ton metal box (or three ton if possible) myself. I wish I could bike to work, but I wouldn't want to share the road with people who drive like me. Plus the 5000' climb on the way home isn't very motivating.

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Indeed. Thankfully the route I've been taking means avoiding the roads completely; other than an entirely manageable jaunt though the centre of town.

The use of the word "mountain" in your map seem appropriate :blink:



Today I awoke feeling horrible by most metrics and decided to give myself the day off; free from attempting to fulfil any obligations to anyone else.

This free mental space to do something for myself with impunity shifted towards thoughts of mating my Polar GPS unit to the Brompton in a more acceptable manner than the current stop-gap.

In short there's no off-the-shelf solution to achieve this, so I've been working on something that uses the Quadlock mount that came with the bike. The chosen solution being to fit a Polar-compatable insert from some other universal mount (that takes interchangeable mounts for different applications) to the Quadlock bracket using a 3D-printed adaptor.

Bits below, L-R: Barfly (IIRC) Polar mount (a bit of a pain to source), 3D-printed adaptor, Quadlock handlebar mount:

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The Quadlock mounting bracket has had the actual quadlock interface removed to reduce stack height; while it also appeared that the printed item would be stronger if fitted directly rather than to the QL interface (which would have required some questionably thin wall thicknesses).


The adaptor was relatively straightforward as most parameters were defined by the parts it was intended to join. While I understand 3D printing to a workable extent, I have little experience designing for it and the "finished" outcome below required a non-trivial amount of fettling to get it to this state:

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The upper face in the pic was actually the bottom face as-printed. The circumferential channel was only supposed to be a couple of mil thick; however collapsed so had to be cut manually (in this case using a rotary tool and a range of bits with the adaptor spun in a drill press) - hence why it's so wide.

Care has to be taken with this thermoplastic (PLA) as getting it too hot whilst working makes it melt rather than cut; making a mess of everything. In the end I used a mixture of steel burrs and a cylindrical stone with light pressure to prevent things getting too hot.

The central countersunk hole for the retaining bolt was a mess out of the printer - too shallow and offset to one side so that had to be re-cut too. Achieved eventually using a blunt countersink tool in the drill; applying force to one side of the adaptor to get the hole somewhere in the middle. A sharp cutter would have been infinitely preferable; and I found the best approach with the example I had was a series of short, hard plunges into the workpiece to force it to cut without generating a lot of heat.

All through-holes were printed 0.2mm or more undersize and drilled to the correct size for better dimensional control. The upper and outside surfaces were finished with a mixture of coarse and fine valve grinding paste; giving a glossier finish in some areas than expected thanks to the heat generated, I think. A quick wipe over with some boiled linseed oil served to downplay some of the remaining marks.

The finish is far from perfect but a reasonable midpoint between the tattyness from the printer and the additional time it would have taken to have got it significantly better.


The underside of the adaptor (which was the upper face of the print) was left as-printed as it was a lot tidier than the opposite side:

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Conveniently as I was getting to the end of the mucky work the necessary fixings came through the door - M4 T-type Nyloc nuts for the (also supplied) M4x12 CSK socket bolts that retain the Polar interface, and 3x6mm steel dowel pins to engage the shallow radial holes in the top of the QL bracket and prevent rotation as the Polar unit is twisted on and off.

One nut pushed in very lightly, another needed winding in on a bolt and all of the pins were a convincing interference fit once pressed into the 3mm holes - I guess the plastic probably deflects a little during drilling, resulting in slightly undersize holes..

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Adaptor fitted to the QL bracket with the single M5 CSK bolt - this engages a captive Nyloc nut in the back of the bracket; the hole for which is far larger than it should be and barely prevents the nut spinning. Top marks for design there, then... :rolleyes:

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Polar interface screwed to the adaptor:

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Polar unit fitted and I'm generally very happy with how it's turned out. The interface does flex a bit when assembled causing the gap between it and the adaptor to open up a little; but this is only a minor aesthetic issue.

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There was also the case of the missing rubber inserts for the mount to address. I had some 1.25mm thick nitrile sheet in my bits box, so cut some strips to fit inside the mount. The smaller bits superglued to one surface are help locate the strips laterally within the grooves in the inside of the clamp jaws:

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Hardly my most aesthetically pleasing work, but they do the job and look fine when fitted :smile:

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After all that the new assembly was cobbled together onto the bike with no drama. The centre bolt is a bit longer than ideal and projects clear of the nut on the back of the mount by about 5mm. I don't have anything of an appropriate length to replace it with but could cut one down if I can be bothered; or more likely will just keep an eye out for a suitable replacement if I can blag one.. for my future reference the ideal appears to be M5x20mm...
 
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wafter

wafter

I like steel bikes and I cannot lie..
Location
Oxford
Having grenaded the whole afternoon I took the Brompton out for a short celebratory waft to check everything was as it should be; again with no dramas and the refreshing novelty of actually being able to see how fast I was going :biggrin:

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I have some slight reservations about the strength of the adaptor, but have hopefully designed it so that there are no obvious weak spots / stress raisers... while I've been impressed by the PLA's strength when playing about with scrap bits.

I have just ordered a silicone rubber case for the Polar unit in the hope that this will prevent any real disaster should the mount fail - as long as this didn't result in it going in the canal!

There remain many things to sort on the bike but I'm very pleased with the outcome of this little exercise and it feels like time well-spent; in my own little world at least :smile:

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wafter

wafter

I like steel bikes and I cannot lie..
Location
Oxford
That looks great. I love 3D printing. I 3D printed a Wahoo mount for my Brompton that uses the stem bolt.

Thanks :smile:

If I had the choice I'd prefer the end result to have been made differently for aesthetic reasons, however I must admit this appeared to be the only viable / attainable process for making the complex shape I required..

How's the Wahoo mount going? I guess that must have some pretty thin sections given what you have to work with on the stem.
 

ExBrit

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Thanks :smile:

If I had the choice I'd prefer the end result to have been made differently for aesthetic reasons, however I must admit this appeared to be the only viable / attainable process for making the complex shape I required..

How's the Wahoo mount going? I guess that must have some pretty thin sections given what you have to work with on the stem.

It works great but I have to use 100% infill as you probably guessed.
 

EltonFrog

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I’m not sure if I missed this up thread or not, but I was wondering how long the cycle part of your commute is? Just idly like.

On Thursday I extended the cycle part of mine from 3.65 to 6.90 to see what it was like. Got to the office feeling more self righteous than usual. 👍
 
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wafter

wafter

I like steel bikes and I cannot lie..
Location
Oxford
I’m not sure if I missed this up thread or not, but I was wondering how long the cycle part of your commute is? Just idly like.

On Thursday I extended the cycle part of mine from 3.65 to 6.90 to see what it was like. Got to the office feeling more self righteous than usual. 👍

Good work :tongue:

Mine's about 8 miles each way on the bike, depending on route. So far it's been bolstered by the novelty of numerous detours on the way home.

It's so convenient to be able to stop off in the city on the way back without the out-of-hand-dismissal that such a jaunt would deserve if looking to do so in the car..
 

a.twiddler

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Impressive result, though a lot of work. Being a belt and braces type of person, I'd fit a lanyard (if it's got a suitable hole) and loop it over the bars or somewhere. That way, if the worst happens, the magnetic attraction of the canal for fragile and water sensitive objects will be minimised.
 

EltonFrog

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Good work :tongue:

Mine's about 8 miles each way on the bike, depending on route. So far it's been bolstered by the novelty of numerous detours on the way home.

It's so convenient to be able to stop off in the city on the way back without the out-of-hand-dismissal that such a jaunt would deserve if looking to do so in the car..

The Fragrant MrsP and drove to Decathlon in Botley today, after our purchase of sundry items in said establishment, we pootled to the city on the Bs. Which was fine, but, Feckin hell Oxford was a right pain. NEVER-GOING-THERE-AGAIN on a Sunday. 🤬
 

Gunk

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Oxford
The Fragrant MrsP and drove to Decathlon in Botley today, after our purchase of sundry items in said establishment, we pootled to the city on the Bs. Which was fine, but, Feckin hell Oxford was a right pain. NEVER-GOING-THERE-AGAIN on a Sunday. 🤬

Be careful you don’t get a ticket at Seacourt, they’re a nightmare.

considering the Botley road is closed we can’t believe how busy it is, but it is smack in the middle of the tourist season. Next time try willow walk, they’ve resurfaced it recently so it’s much easier to access.
 

EltonFrog

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Be careful you don’t get a ticket at Seacourt, they’re a nightmare.

considering the Botley road is closed we can’t believe how busy it is, but it is smack in the middle of the tourist season. Next time try willow walk, they’ve resurfaced it recently so it’s much easier to access.

Parking at Seacourt has a 3hr limit.
 
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