20 cm away from death

[Origamist]

Aye I just worked that out! Here is the roundabout.

Thanks. Just checked Street View - has the road sign obscuring traffic to the right (coming down from Glasgow Rd) been removed - I hope so. If not, I suspect he will say there was no eye contact and his view was impaired (i.e he could not see the circulating cyclist).

See pic of rear of sign here: http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?q=g64...ypKZ0qd18_XRfVrIFOowwQ&cbp=12,232.67,,0,31.52

 

[magnatom]

Nothing spectacular really......just another day in the life of a cyclist. Sad that we have to put up with this level of stupidity and neglect of responsibility on an ongoing basis.

I'm glad you're ok man and I really hope that you get some mileage from the police.

Umm, err.. you're not Mr Hippo are you? Nothing spectacular! Bl**dy hell I wouldn't want to cycle in your neck of the woods! That is by far the worst, BY FAR the worst incident I have had in 4.5 years of daily cycle commuting.

To anyone new reading this thread, this is NOT a common incident. It is very rare, thank goodness!

 

[4F]

What a nobber, glad you are OK

 

[hackbike 666]

To anyone new reading this thread, this is NOT a common incident. It is very rare, thank goodness!

True.(touchwood)

 

[4F]

BTW, seriously now.... do not show your Wife that footage!!!! If she's anything like mine she'll be worrying enough about you being on a bike anyway!

+1 there are somethings that are best not told to her indoors

 

[Sh4rkyBloke]

Thanks. Just checked Street View - has the road sign obscuring traffic to the right (coming down from Glasgow Rd) been removed - I hope so. If not, I suspect he will say there was no eye contact and his view was impaired (i.e he could not see the circulating cyclist).

Absolutely no excuse from his vantage point in the cab of an HGV though.

 

[magnatom]

Thanks. Just checked Street View - has the road sign obscuring traffic to the right (coming down from Glasgow Rd) been removed - I hope so. If not, I suspect he will say there was no eye contact and his view was impaired (i.e he could not see the circulating cyclist).

See pic of rear of sign here:

It is still there, but that is absolutely no excuse. I eyeballed him before he reached that point, and I am certain he eyeballed me. You have plenty of vision of my entrance before you reach that sign.

If the sign was restricting his vision (which it wasn't) then he should have been more cautious on his approach in the first place...although I know I am preaching to the converted!

 

[Origamist]

Absolutely no excuse from his vantage point in the cab of an HGV though.

Of course, just priming Magnatom for the usual excuses! That said, if the sign is still there (and it looks to me that the Rab has been redesigned over the years) it is poorly placed as it will interfere with approaching car/van sight lines.

 

[HLaB]

Thanks. Just checked Street View - has the road sign obscuring traffic to the right (coming down from Glasgow Rd) been removed - I hope so. If not, I suspect he will say there was no eye contact and his view was impaired (i.e he could not see the circulating cyclist).

See pic of rear of sign here: http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?q=g64...ypKZ0qd18_XRfVrIFOowwQ&cbp=12,232.67,,0,31.52

Absolutely no excuse from his vantage point in the cab of an HGV though.

+1, I paused the video on 27 secs and it looks like the signs still there but you can also see the HGV in relation to it and mags, IMO there is no way it caused a visibility problem.

 

[magnatom]

+1, I paused the video on 27 secs and it looks like the signs still there but you can also see the HGV in relation to it and mags, IMO there is no way it caused a visibility problem.

Indeed. Looking at the video, I was well on the roundabout when he entered and I would have been to the front right of his cab, so no excuse for not seeing me.

It was a good spot though Origamist.

 

[Brahan]

Umm, err.. you're not Mr Hippo are you? Nothing spectacular! Bl**dy hell I wouldn't want to cycle in your neck of the woods! That is by far the worst, BY FAR the worst incident I have had in 4.5 years of daily cycle commuting.

To anyone new reading this thread, this is NOT a common incident. It is very rare, thank goodness!

It may be the worst (closest) incident that you've encountered but I bet you've saved yourself from countless potentially deadly scenarios before now - which have been caused by the idiocy of the driver...a second or two later on the brakes and who knows what could have happened in any of them. (obviously I'm not suggesting you should have braked earlier here, it's 100% driver error)

It's your first time but I'm pretty sure this kind of incident is happening up and down the country daily and going unreported the majority of the time.

Spectacular in your case yes, but in the general scheme of things that cyclists have to endure the length and breadth of the country, you're very lucky that it wasn't a hell of a lot worse.

 

[Origamist]

It is still there, but that is absolutely no excuse. I eyeballed him before he reached that point, and I am certain he eyeballed me. You have plenty of vision of my entrance before you reach that sign.

If the sign was restricting his vision (which it wasn't) then he should have been more cautious on his approach in the first place...although I know I am preaching to the converted!

Indeed - you do not need to convince me - but in these situations excuses abound and you need to be prepared to counter them - or better yet, when you talk to the police preemptively comment that the low sun and road sign were not factors as it shows you're not just another numpty cyclist who does not understand the HC or how to behave in traffic. It also demonstrates awareness of the surroundings/road conditions and that you are considering the incident from the HGV driver's perspective.

 

[magnatom]

Indeed - you do not need to convince me - but in these situations excuses abound and you need to be prepared to counter them - or better yet, when you talk to the police preemptively comment that the low sun and road sign were not factors as it shows you're not just another numpty cyclist who does not understand the HC or how to behave in traffic. It also demonstrates awareness of the surroundings and that you are considering the incident from the HGV driver's perspective.

Aye, that's a good approach. I just have to hope that the police officer that comes to speak to me takes it all in.

 

[addictfreak]

Probably the worst video of this nature that I have ever seen!

Just sheer luck, and the fact you had your wits about you that it didnt end in tragedy.

I would have had to have gone home and change my underwear. Glad your ok and lets hope the driver gets what is coming to him.
As a tanker driver (ADR) he should certainly have displayed a higher level of driving skill.

I had the misfortune to witness first the effects of cyclist v HGV a few years ago, the memory is still clearly etched on my mind.

 

[Rohloff_Brompton_Rider]

good luck with the police, but don't expect anything. my son and i were hit from behind by a maniac driver at 70 mph on a slip road, we were stationary in a queue last september. he had no insurance and was driving a friends car without permission. the police decided not to take any action against him.