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Legs

usually riding on Zwift...
Location
Staffordshire
@Legs, can see you signed up for the same hill climb as me. That will be fun :laugh:

I'll be sitting in the pen until about 6:50 because I've got to drop my lad off at Cubs, so it'll be a solo effort from me! But yes, we'll nominally be in the same race!

A-goal is a PB, B-goal is sub-46. I even cluttered up my garage with bought the Specialized Aethos because it's 7s faster up the Alpe than my beloved Bridgestone steed. Game face is firmly on.
 

Peter Salt

Bittersweet
Location
Yorkshire, UK
I'll be sitting in the pen until about 6:50 because I've got to drop my lad off at Cubs, so it'll be a solo effort from me! But yes, we'll nominally be in the same race!

A-goal is a PB, B-goal is sub-46. I even cluttered up my garage with bought the Specialized Aethos because it's 7s faster up the Alpe than my beloved Bridgestone steed. Game face is firmly on.
You may still catch me :laugh:
 

mjd1988

Guru
Had a go on the col d'aspin - loved the portal. Prefer it to a random rendering. Got into unofficial races with lots of people minding their own business.

I did find it hard to remain seated at anything over 8% without going into a crazy low cadence. I do find I rarely stand when cycling hills on actual bike but obviously never been near that kind of climb. How do people find their form changes on virtual Vs real life? Should I be forcing myself to grind (the other answer is to lose weight or gain power of course....)
 

Legs

usually riding on Zwift...
Location
Staffordshire
@Peter Salt looks like a bloody good time? Sub 50 as @Legs predicted? Don't see his result just yet but I know he was starting late

I had a shocker from 15 minutes onwards - it was a classic case of starting too hot and struggling to hold 280W over the second half. Still managed 47:22, less than a minute off my PB, but I think there’s a good 90s to be had by pacing it more sensibly.

@Peter Salt had a great ride - a massive PB 😎
 
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CXRAndy

Guru
Location
Lincs
Had a go on the col d'aspin - loved the portal. Prefer it to a random rendering. Got into unofficial races with lots of people minding their own business.

I did find it hard to remain seated at anything over 8% without going into a crazy low cadence. I do find I rarely stand when cycling hills on actual bike but obviously never been near that kind of climb. How do people find their form changes on virtual Vs real life? Should I be forcing myself to grind (the other answer is to lose weight or gain power of course....)

My overall outdoor technique is similar to indoors.

Being a big lad, standing takes a lot more effort and will soon fatigue me.

I find for long climbs that I'm not going for a PB is to set a highish cadence I can maintain for upto an hour, then as my HR begins to rise lower the cadence to control my HR.
PB attempts is to run at threshold HR and do whatever cadence I can to stay at that level of effort
 

Peter Salt

Bittersweet
Location
Yorkshire, UK
@Peter Salt looks like a bloody good time? Sub 50 as @Legs predicted? Don't see his result just yet but I know he was starting late
Bloody good, doesn't give it justice. I'm chuffed to bits!

On my previous PB, I started at a certain power, kept it steady but my HR kept creeping, until I kind of exploded with 5 or so hairpins to go. This time, I started the same way, but my HR hit around 172-173 two hairpins in, and then just stayed there - so I knew it was going to be good. Tried not to get too excited and just kept at it, every hairpin being 2-4s faster than previous PB. Really felt good at the end, and it seemed like I was catching the lot in front, so I upped the game. 3-2 was 10s quicker than PB; 2-1 was 20s quicker than PB; finishing segment was nearly 30s quicker than previous PB. Final time 49:32, so I practically made it a sub 50 on that last stretch. Not bad for a sprinter.

Felt really good today. Had nice food and was well-fuelled. Things also going great in the personal space so I was in a fine mood. I let people get in front on the lead-in to have more carrots on the road - that was good too. Once I noticed the HR trend, I knew it was a matter of putting my head down and just chirping out the watts.

I did find it hard to remain seated at anything over 8% without going into a crazy low cadence. I do find I rarely stand when cycling hills on actual bike but obviously never been near that kind of climb. How do people find their form changes on virtual Vs real life? Should I be forcing myself to grind (the other answer is to lose weight or gain power of course....)
Oooh, interesting that you mention it. The biggest difference in terms of effort, between my indoor trainer and cycling outside, is that I have pretty much unlimited gears on the Wattbike. My indoor sweet spot is around 92-93 RPM and I used to always aim for that. Outside, it's a bit of a different story, my lowest gear is a 34-30 so when I hit big gradients, cadence drops to around 60 and I just have to get up. And I used to be somewhat uncomfortable doing that.

Maybe 10 weeks ago, I decided to get out of my comfort zone more, when Zwifting. I did a Robopacer ride, kept the power steady, but every 8 minutes I put the trainer in a hard gear, got up, and grinded around 65 RPM for 2 minutes. To my surprise, despite it being a usual length Z2 ride, I really felt it the next day. I thought I need to do it more as it will likely benefit my sprint (I always sprint out of the saddle) and the ability to do those puncheur-like efforts. So basically every Robopacer ride I do now, and sometimes even in a race, I occasionally go in a higher gear. When I started, 2-3 minutes out of the saddle felt like plenty, I had to sit down for a while after that. Now, I can get up and do it for 10 minutes. It definitely helped with the Alpe finish today too.
 

Norry1

Legendary Member
Location
Warwick
I tend to stand quite a lot when climbing. I can definitely put out more power on climbs than on the flat. My 20 min best PB's tend to be on long hills.

I stand less indoors but that is probably because I don't have Trainer Difficulty at 100%. Also when really steep I swing the bars left and right when grinding which you can't do on the turbo.
 
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