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usually riding on Zwift...
Location
Staffordshire
This all would be nice.

But in all honesty, I'd also want them to ban bike swapping mid-race.

Yes, that would probably be better!
 

alex_cycles

Veteran
Location
Oxfordshire
This all would be nice.

But in all honesty, I'd also want them to ban bike swapping mid-race.

Why not ban power-ups and points races too? And fun.
And let's all go outside and stop this gamified nonsense!

Personally I think banning things should be banned. :laugh:
I like the differences, and I like having a choice. But I've nothing against there being a race organiser option to prevent bike swaps - just like there is to enforce bike selection.

Love the variety in different sorts of Zwift races and really don't understand why people want to force their opinions on others.
(You should see the polarizing discussions about Cat Enforcement on the Zwift forums. Stalin would be shocked at the severity of some people's opinions. :eek:)

Just race the races you like the rules for and ignore the others. Simples. Although it would be nice if Zwift had a decent native way to search and filter races. Appalling that the best way to do that is on Zwifthacks :wacko:
 

<Tommy>

Illegitimi non carborundum
Location
Camden, London
Why not ban power-ups and points races too? And fun.
And let's all go outside and stop this gamified nonsense!

Personally I think banning things should be banned.
I like the differences, and I like having a choice. But I've nothing against there being a race organiser option to prevent bike swaps - just like there is to enforce bike selection.

Love the variety in different sorts of Zwift races and really don't understand why people want to force their opinions on others.
(You should see the polarizing discussions about Cat Enforcement on the Zwift forums. Stalin would be shocked at the severity of some people's opinions. :eek:)

Just race the races you like the rules for and ignore the others. Simples. Although it would be nice if Zwift had a decent native way to search and filter races. Appalling that the best way to do that is on Zwifthacks :wacko:



Personally I think the only thing that should be banned is people giving an opinion whist simultaneously telling others they shouldn’t express there’s! :laugh:
 

Joffey

Big Dosser
Location
Yorkshire
Ban the Bounty. I could get behind that.
 

bridgy

Legendary Member
Location
Cheddar
I like the bike changes - or at least the possiblity/choice of doing them and the tactical decision involved (in reality I think I've only ever chosen to do it once or twice in a race). It's just a shame that the process is so much slower if you use ATV rather than a PC (and some people even set up autohotkey so they can do the whole thing instantly with one press of a button) because that really disadvantages some users just because of the hardware they use.

Oh and I love a Bounty too 🤤
 

Peter Salt

Bittersweet
Location
Yorkshire, UK
Why not ban power-ups and points races too? And fun.
And let's all go outside and stop this gamified nonsense!

Personally I think banning things should be banned. :laugh:
I like the differences, and I like having a choice. But I've nothing against there being a race organiser option to prevent bike swaps - just like there is to enforce bike selection.

Love the variety in different sorts of Zwift races and really don't understand why people want to force their opinions on others.
(You should see the polarizing discussions about Cat Enforcement on the Zwift forums. Stalin would be shocked at the severity of some people's opinions. :eek:)

Just race the races you like the rules for and ignore the others. Simples. Although it would be nice if Zwift had a decent native way to search and filter races. Appalling that the best way to do that is on Zwifthacks :wacko:
I have to say, the most fun races that I did to date are indeed those where people are assigned the same bike and there are no powerups, would be great if organisers could assign wheels too. It takes randomness/luck & rider level out of the equation and contributes to the experience. So it's an example of how having less can give you more. But that's just my opinion.
 

alex_cycles

Veteran
Location
Oxfordshire
I have to say, the most fun races that I did to date are indeed those where people are assigned the same bike and there are no powerups, would be great if organisers could assign wheels too. It takes randomness/luck & rider level out of the equation and contributes to the experience. So it's an example of how having less can give you more. But that's just my opinion.

It's a very valid opinion. And from all the sh*t-posting on FB in the WTRL section about SBP, there's obviously a lot of people out there who just want a "straight race". And I hope there will always be decent options available for that. I'm sure there will.

We're not all the same though and I quite like the gamification side of it. I think there are a lot of people in both camps and I don't see why it can't be "both, and" rather than "either, or". Although I enjoy ZRL, I find all the segment smashing really hard and sometimes I'd prefer a straight race. It's nice to have both available to choose from. :smile:
 

IrishAl

** Full Time Pro **
Location
N.Ireland
Going back a few posts, wouldn't it be good if Zwift allowed archiving or deletion of obsolete and rubbish bikes?
I'm never going to want to ride the Zwift Carbon again. Same for the standard gravel bike, now that I've got the Aspero.

It'd be even better if you could set up an auto-swap function to toggle between setups while in-ride; preselect 2 or more setups into your 'pit', then it'd do an auto-slow-down and swap at the press of a button. No other clicking or scrolling would be required in the actual event. There'd still be a tactical element to choosing the right time to start the slow-down, and they could introduce a minimum stationary time of, say, 5 seconds, but it would eliminate the possibility of cocking it up through fat-fingeredness and make it fair across different platforms.

I managed 3 bike swaps with ATV in relatively slick fashion last night Tron - Grail - Canyon road bike - Grail. Managed each swap in about 10 seconds and the bike swap’s definitely helped me get back position and/or improve.
 
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