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mjd1988

Guru
@mjd1988 I just checked and I'm a B. Happy to help out on Thursday (and gives me an excuse as @bridgy is trying to recruit me for the B+ race)

Yess! Good man. It's a good team - we won the league last time and think we've won stage two after being a bit light on numbers week 1 (one guy is close to being dq'd which would make a big difference)
 

Peter Salt

Bittersweet
Location
Yorkshire, UK
Oh p.s. anyone fancy the b minus TTT on Thursday at 1845? @BurningLegs @Whorty ?

@alex_cycles @Peter Salt anyone else in b minus territory?
Not this time, but thanks for the offer.
 

bridgy

Legendary Member
Location
Cheddar
His Strava profile suggests a bloody strong rider.

Yeah he is a strong rider.

But he's also slipping through the net with the category boundary for B requiring 250 watts as well as over 4w/kg. He's perfectly capable of doing over 250w for 95% of 20 minutes as he's done it several times, just not in the last 90 days.

He absolutely dominated our B+ Cat race last night, easily winning both FTS and FAL segments and the overall, and he did another B Cat race immediately before the DIRT one last night - and won that too (he usually wins 2 races a day).

His 1 minute, 30 second and 15 second power are incredibly high for such a light rider - all considerably higher in actual raw watts than mine and I'm 23kg heavier and at the higher end of Cat B.

In fact, his best w/kg figures for 1 minute, 30 seconds and 15 seconds are higher than Jay Vine's who is both the Zwift e-sports world champion and as we know has just won 2 stages of the Vuelta!

He's not doing anything wrong (assuming those huge power numbers are accurate) but it's hard to argue the category system has got this one right I think!
 

Norry1

Legendary Member
Location
Warwick
Yeah he is a strong rider.

But he's also slipping through the net with the category boundary for B requiring 250 watts as well as over 4w/kg. He's perfectly capable of doing over 250w for 95% of 20 minutes as he's done it several times, just not in the last 90 days.

He absolutely dominated our B+ Cat race last night, easily winning both FTS and FAL segments and the overall, and he did another B Cat race immediately before the DIRT one last night - and won that too (he usually wins 2 races a day).

His 1 minute, 30 second and 15 second power are incredibly high for such a light rider - all considerably higher in actual raw watts than mine and I'm 23kg heavier and at the higher end of Cat B.

In fact, his best w/kg figures for 1 minute, 30 seconds and 15 seconds are higher than Jay Vine's who is both the Zwift e-sports world champion and as we know has just won 2 stages of the Vuelta!

He's not doing anything wrong (assuming those huge power numbers are accurate) but it's hard to argue the category system has got this one right I think!

Seems like a big assumption! More likely either his weight or power recording is out. Ignoring watts, what do his speeds look like in the real world in Strava?
 

bridgy

Legendary Member
Location
Cheddar
Seems like a big assumption! More likely either his weight or power recording is out. Ignoring watts, what do his speeds look like in the real world in Strava?

Not sure, but I think he's definitely a strong rider IRL. I'm not tring to cast doubt on his numbers (innocent until proven guilty and all that) but just saying that when a rider like this remains qualified to race in Cat B it's a good example of the Cat system being a bit ropey in places (which I think we all knew already TBF!) Of course, a results based system, or a system that at least factors in results might help.
 

steverob

Guru
Location
Buckinghamshire
Just added CCC's final ZRL practice event to the Clubs section for next Tuesday night. As before, everyone is welcome to sign up - this could well be one where the more people join, the more interesting it'll be.

We're doing the Libby Hill After Party course (5 laps of the flat sprint, then short climb at the finish), but using it for sprint training. Basically we'll ride in a group until about 1km before each sprint banner and then the flag will drop and it's every man for himself. Not that I'm expecting anyone to actually launch an attack at 1km out, but the option is there if you feel like it! Then post-sprint we re-group, recover and get ready to do it all again next lap.

The hope is that everyone will get a chance to try different strategies and if you keep them secret from other riders it'll add to the realism (after all in ZRL we don't know what our rivals will do). Perhaps you might change how far out you launch your attack every lap, or maybe you plan instead to sit on the wheel of the winner of the previous sprint until the last second, or perhaps have to bridge across to someone who did go early etc.
 
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Peter Salt

Bittersweet
Location
Yorkshire, UK
Just added CCC's final ZRL practice event to the Clubs section for next Tuesday night. As before, everyone is welcome to sign up - this could well be one where the more people join, the more interesting it'll be.

We're doing the Libby Hill After Party course (5 laps of the flat sprint, then short climb at the finish), but using it for sprint training. Basically we'll ride in a group until about 1km before each sprint banner and then the flag will drop and it's every man for himself. Not that I'm expecting anyone to actually launch an attack at 1km out, but the option is there if you feel like it! Then post-sprint we re-group, recover and get ready to do it all again next lap.

The hope is that everyone will get a chance to try different strategies and if you keep them secret from other riders it'll add to the realism (after all in ZRL we don't know what our rivals will do). Perhaps you might change how far out you launch your attack every lap, or maybe you plan instead to sit on the wheel of the winner of the previous sprint until the last second, or perhaps have to bridge across to someone who did go early etc.
Because this one is all about sprinting (well, maybe apart from the last hill that's slightly longer), it would be really fun if B riders could join us as we actually stand a chance :laugh:
 

bobinski

Legendary Member
Location
Tulse Hill
Seems like a big assumption! More likely either his weight or power recording is out. Ignoring watts, what do his speeds look like in the real world in Strava?

He has a lot of real world rides on Strava. Only been riding <4y! Mileage recently is pretty crazy.
 

mjd1988

Guru
Just added CCC's final ZRL practice event to the Clubs section for next Tuesday night. As before, everyone is welcome to sign up - this could well be one where the more people join, the more interesting it'll be.

We're doing the Libby Hill After Party course (5 laps of the flat sprint, then short climb at the finish), but using it for sprint training. Basically we'll ride in a group until about 1km before each sprint banner and then the flag will drop and it's every man for himself. Not that I'm expecting anyone to actually launch an attack at 1km out, but the option is there if you feel like it! Then post-sprint we re-group, recover and get ready to do it all again next lap.

The hope is that everyone will get a chance to try different strategies and if you keep them secret from other riders it'll add to the realism (after all in ZRL we don't know what our rivals will do). Perhaps you might change how far out you launch your attack every lap, or maybe you plan instead to sit on the wheel of the winner of the previous sprint until the last second, or perhaps have to bridge across to someone who did go early etc.
Next week's dirt course is relatively short so may get a chance to join but may be toast at this point.

Just like the person @bridgy mentioned, we have someone who regularly wins our races in the dirt series who does two of them in a day which I find very suspicious
 

bridgy

Legendary Member
Location
Cheddar
Next week's dirt course is relatively short so may get a chance to join but may be toast at this point.

Just like the person @bridgy mentioned, we have someone who regularly wins our races in the dirt series who does two of them in a day which I find very suspicious

The thing is, it's not always "suspicious" as such, but rather a failure in the category system
 
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