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Whorty

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Wiltshire
I got the Quatch Quest route done this morning and it was painfull towards the end of the Alpe, and I got the Tron bike for completing the Everest challenge also ,earlier than I thought😀. 2 days of now for a rest ready for TdZ stage 4
Well done Chris :okay:

I made my second boo boo yesterday in my badge collecting .... I selected the "Triple Loop" route in London as I knew I had never ridden that before. 70 minutes later, passing through the Start/Finish arch at the correct mileage I didn't get the pop up telling me I'd completed the route. turns out that route wasn't on the list :banghead:

The one I'm not looking forward to is the Full PRL London .... 175km. Need to allocate a whole day to that bad boy! Will aim to do that towards the end of my training for the Tour of Cambridgeshire :okay:
 

Whorty

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Wiltshire
FWIW my 12 week plan allegedly takes me to a point where Vo2 up and another plan kicks in to push power and endurance to cover both ToC and the Cingles.
What I am interested in, given so many of us here are around the same top cat C/bottom cat B in zwift, is whether those that tend to race a lot do better than me on a Controlled plan😁. I would have thought it was quite likely.
The other question is are we measuring absolute or relative gains as it will depend where the gains are to be made and if there are still any low hanging fruit. Some, like me, are starting from a lower point so (in theory) should make bigger relative gains albeit those gains may not still take me to the level of say you, Tommy, Paul etc. You guys however may make smaller gains relative to where you are today, but compared to us weaker riders they may still be larger absolute gains. If you know what I mean :laugh:

I would think we're all aiming at different types of gains too; for me I'm looking to build more endurance and some weight loss but not necessarily more power so any increase in w/kg will come from being lighter. Whereas a rider who already has a low body mass would need to create extra power to increase their w/kg.

I still need to get my bike cleaned down too ... .that's got to be worth another 5 watts :biggrin:
 

Whorty

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Location
Wiltshire
These long training blocks, whilst you improve as they progress, its the basis for more intense peaking later. So fruits often happen 4-5 weeks after the workout block has finished.

I was listening to GCN videos and a question was asked of the presenters. What training tips gave their best race performance. It varied from super long rides to a few weeks of HIT. One presenter said that he would invariably win a race a few weeks after doing 5hr rides at 85rpm.
I love those GCN vids on YouTube ..... very entertaining
 
Well done Chris :okay:

I made my second boo boo yesterday in my badge collecting .... I selected the "Triple Loop" route in London as I knew I had never ridden that before. 70 minutes later, passing through the Start/Finish arch at the correct mileage I didn't get the pop up telling me I'd completed the route. turns out that route wasn't on the list :banghead:

The one I'm not looking forward to is the Full PRL London .... 175km. Need to allocate a whole day to that bad boy! Will aim to do that towards the end of my training for the Tour of Cambridgeshire :okay:

Cheers Carl , I printed off some info about the routes from here as it list all of them , the full PRL London will be a day ride for me with a couple of toilet breaks thrown in

https://zwiftinsider.com/route-ride-schedule/

Triple loops London is on the list
 
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Whorty

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Location
Wiltshire
Cheers Carl , I printed off some info about the routes from here as it list all of them , the full PRL London will be a day ride for me with a couple of toilet breaks thrown in

https://zwiftinsider.com/route-ride-schedule/

Triple loops London is on the list
Same here, due to the climbing involved I'm expecting it to take 6+ hours. Need to find a day when wife is well and doesn't mind being left in her chair all day watching tele. I'll have to stop every 90 mins or so to help her with various 'things', and obviously sort out her lunch (I have to sit with her whilst she eats as she tends to choke which is not fun). Hoping I can get around to doing this maybe late April, early May but we'll see :whistle:

Edit : I don't see Triple Loop on my badge list .... is it on yours?
 
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Milzy

Guru
I suppose junk miles is just non specific work. Everything you do on the bike will effect FTP. Even commuting a couple of miles slowly to work.
People have told me don't bother with Zone 3 Tempo as it's a waste of time. Wrong, you need all Zones. If you're on a very long sportive or group ride chances are you'll be tapping out tempo and for the fit & well carbed could be a 12 hour day. You'll be using a mixture of fat & carbs in that zone. I've seen blocks of this zone thrown into all kinds of workouts.
Who's doing the TT tommorow & at what time ? :smile:
 
Same here, due to the climbing involved I'm expecting it to take 6+ hours. Need to find a day when wife is well and doesn't mind being left in her chair all day watching tele. I'll have to stop every 90 mins or so to help her with various 'things', and obviously sort out her lunch (I have to sit with her whilst she eats as she tends to choke which is not fun). Hoping I can get around to doing this maybe late April, early May but we'll see :whistle:

Edit : I don't see Triple Loop on my badge list .... is it on yours?

Yes Triple loops is on my Zwift badge list and I have it ticked off😁
 
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CXRAndy

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Yes Triple loops is on my Zwift badge list and I have it ticked off😁
Its 25 miles the triple loop.

Im not going to do the super long stuff on Zwift
 

Joffey

Big Dosser
Location
Yorkshire
So just done that Ride With G thing and it tells me that my FTP has gone from 198 to 207.

You chaps seem to know a lot about training and stuff - that's a difference of 2 weeks - should I expect to see that figure keep rising as I ride more and when would it plateau? How much should it be increasing? I presume when it does I would need to start some specific training to increase it?

Anyhow, pretty chuffed to have increased it in 2 weeks. Gives me a bit more motivation going into S4 of the TdZ.
 
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