Windows 11 upgrade, a rant!

[CXRAndy]

I was intrigued about my NUC PC which I've retired from its main duty of running Zwift.

I did the updates and it informed me my CPU and TPM weren't compatible. I checked the bios and found the toggle setting for TPM. So I've just got the small hurdle of either editing the registry to ignore unsupported CPU or wait for Microsoft to add my i5 1.8ghz processor to the support list.

I'll leave it for the moment as it's running fine with Rouvy on another turbo set up

 

[Drago]

^^^ I'd use a ballpeen hammer for that.

 

[albion]

I think my old laptops TPM toggle was for TPM 1.5
W11 needs 2.0.

 

[wiggydiggy]

Not W11 but my PC decided to fart itself into a 45 minute update last night, no idea what it was for but after 3 restarts it finally started working again. I think I'll be switching away from Windows sooner rather than later now.

 

[Dadam]

I'm all for keeping old equipment going, but the price selling a old laptop will be minimal. Wouldn't it be worthwhile as a backup of some sort?

It's a fair point, it's a very nice machine and the screen, albeit "only" FHD resolution is lovely and vibrant. It's also one of the first laptops with an ultra thin bezel around the screen. It has a 13.3" screen but is almost exactly the same size externally as the netbook it replaced, which only had an 11.6" screen. Its battery still seems good too.

On the other hand with a new gaming laptop, a Macbook Pro 16", a Macbook Air 13" and a Dell XPS-15 plus various iPads in the household we're not really wanting for computing devices! Also, I'm really bad at getting rid of stuff, so the temptation to keep something else "just in case" is to be resisted. Ebay shows the same model going for between 150 and 200. Some at 100 even lacking battery and/or SSD! So it's not to be sneezed at.

Interestingly many of those listings from the same commercial refurb outfit are listed with 11 Pro installed.

 

[Drago]

Not W11 but my PC decided to fart itself into a 45 minute update last night, no idea what it was for but after 3 restarts it finally started working again. I think I'll be switching away from Windows sooner rather than later now.

Mine did the updates a few days ago. It took 3 or 4 minutes on mine.

 

[wiggydiggy]

Mine did the updates a few days ago. It took 3 or 4 minutes on mine.

Normally does on mine but it just had an absolute moment and fully refused to update 100%, just froze. I ended up hard resetting it twice to try and get it to react.

 

[Mike_P]

On the subject of needing an appropriately sized hard drive /SSD the latest.version of W11 is leaving over 8GB of unnecessary files on the drive that are currently undeletable.

 

[markemark]

Mine did the updates a few days ago. It took 3 or 4 minutes on mine.

Often depends on internet speed for downloading updates not just the device.

 

[ColinJ]

Hmm... It is usually the 'e' that is missing or repeated. Maybe not surprising given how ofteen [<---!!!] it is used... Hah, there you go!

I will try cleaning inside the laptop to see if any gunk has got in. That might give the keyboard a new lease of life.

I just took a look under the 'e' keycap... it was gunk HQ!

I scraped everything out andd [<--!] just did a test consisting of 10 x 10 x 'e' presses. o [<--!] problemo.

It looks like gunk is the main problem and commonly used letters are worse because they obviously get more gunk pressed down the sides of them. I shone a bright light on the sides of the keycaps and can see that they could all do with a good clean. I'll do that over the next couple of days.

 

[Marchrider]

I got so fed up with updates taking over the computer, I managed to block them years ago, I hate updates
- they still try to download crap evryday but It is knocked on the head almost instantaneously

 

[bonzobanana]

I recently bought a little mini pc off ebay for 6 pounds plus 3 pounds postage. It's a Celeron 1037U processor with Geforce 705M graphics and 4GB of memory and 256GB SSD. It came with Windows 10 but I used a online utility to change it to Windows 10 Enterprise IOT LTSC which is supported until 2032 with security updates. To be perfectly honest I think Linux is safer as it has a ring fenced kernal and for online banking etc Linux is safer. Microsoft operating systems nowadays are determined to send your data back to Microsoft to monetize it and that is a risk to security. Microsoft operating systems are inefficient and flawed when it comes to security. I always try to use a local account only with Windows as I simply don't want them to know who I am. I don't use Edge either. However I do want security updates.

 

[Conrad_K]

As for @Regular.Cyclist's medical device, all operating systems and computers go obsolete.

A $500 personal computer is one thing. A hundred million dollar flight simulator is something else. Particularly when every line of code running on it has to be certified by the government.

A friend of mine manages a flight simulator bay at a major airline. The control software is all in FORTRAN, going back to the late 1950s I think. The ancient mainframe it ran on was thirty years old and dying, and it was weird enough that the compiler wouldn't run on anything else. They couldn't use the compiler or port the existing one without re-certifying the entire software stack, would would have cost... I don't think they even bothered after enough zeroes stacked up.

So they had a British company called Rediffusion make them another computer. From scratch. That ran the same code the old one did. It took Rediffusion a while to design and build it, and then they had a team on-site for months afterward. Management was thrilled that it was so cheap compared to porting the old software...