So, having had an opportunity to do the following
[QUOTE 5251971, member: 10119"]May take a look at the rest of the thread at some point.[/QUOTE]
I find myself in agreement with @Tim Hall about that thread
[QUOTE 5252222, member: 9609"]I'm sure there will be a way to massage the stats to show no action is needed as cyclist are adequately safe, and it is the poor motorist we should be concentrating on helping.[/QUOTE]
(my bolds)I don't think I've seen anyone attempting to do such a thing. As @mjr says
And
[QUOTE 5251971, member: 10119"]May take a look at the rest of the thread at some point.[/QUOTE]
I find myself in agreement with @Tim Hall about that thread
Interesting stuff indeed.Hat tip, as they say somewhere, to you and @User13710 . That's an interesting thread.
Oh dear. @Nigel-YZ1 - I hope you aren't also a gurl. This thread could take a most unfortunate direction....I don't think you'll both fit in a cup.
[QUOTE 5252222, member: 9609"]I'm sure there will be a way to massage the stats to show no action is needed as cyclist are adequately safe, and it is the poor motorist we should be concentrating on helping.[/QUOTE]
(my bolds)I don't think I've seen anyone attempting to do such a thing. As @mjr says
Although I remain unconvinced that PIFs are a meaningful way of doing so.The second sentence there does not follow from the first. Motoring is dangerous, so if anything we're telling motorists they need to be more careful around everyone than they currently are.
And
I kind of expect people out in the Big Blue Room to do the 'oh, aren't you brave! Cycling is so dangerous!" thing, but on a cycling forum, where I would expect the one unifying factor would be a love of/enthusiasm for cycling?This whole thread is making me very sad.