Why are people against CCTV and speed cameras on the roads?

[GrumpyGregry]

More cameras = more millions! It's all good!

win -win

"The statistics also have away other interesting pieces of information. This included the A259 in Brighton, East Sussex having 11 cameras in just 12 miles. Those cameras have earned £1 million in just three years through 18,000 drivers."

The scandal is that that folk are more shocked by the amount of money raised in the fines then the fact that 18,000 drivers are dumb enough to get caught speeding on one 12 mile stretch. What's their freakin' hurry?

 

[Linford]

So how do you propose that police identify drunk drivers?

A facetious answer would be to plant speed camera's everywhere in the hope they might eventually drive through so many whilst inebriated, that they pick up a ban that way, but a police driver on the ball will see the signs easily enough.

 

[benb]

A facetious answer would be to plant speed camera's everywhere in the hope they might eventually drive through so many whilst inebriated, that they pick up a ban that way, but a police driver on the ball will see the signs easily enough.

How about having both speed cameras and traffic police?

 

[Linford]

Don't get me wrong, if you get caught by an officer for speeding and they ask you to take a ticket, then you are banged to rights, but these drivers are experts, and if they feel you are driving in a way which endangers yourself and others, then that should be their call also.

A fixed camera doesn't give the operator any more information to the danger of that driver if they are tailgating, or talking on the mobile than a couple of still pictures taken a second apart showing the back of their head. They could be absolutely hammered, and be happy that there are not many police cars out there who might take the time to study what htey do.

 

[Linford]

How about having both speed cameras and traffic police?

My force had this, but has been reducing the numbers of static cams in favour of cars.

 

[Linford]

Speed cameras have a built in lee way.

You got caught breaking the law - so stop whinging and take it like a man!

I didn't think he was whinging TBH - You can be despondent about a situation whilst still accepting it is right and fair - but then again, I just reread it

Bend over and take it Smeggers

 

[mickle]

Blah blah blah ... The maxim stated in the highway code 'Drive at a speed which you can stop within the distance to be safe' relies on that principle. Sometimes it will be much lower than the posted, sometimes higher.... lah blah blah

Really? The highway code suggests that it's ok to drive in excess of the posted limit? I must have missed that bit...

 

[Linford]

Really? The highway code suggests that it's ok to drive in excess of the posted limit? I must have missed that bit...

Anything on the wrong side of the limit is 'wrong' in the eyes of the law, but that doesn't neccesarily mean it is putting anyone in danger.

 

[Inertia]

Anything on the wrong side of the limit is 'wrong' in the eyes of the law, but that doesn't neccesarily mean it is putting anyone in danger.

Personally, Id rather people stick to the speed limit (or less) instead of deciding for themselves what is safe or not. Is it really too much to ask?

 

[mickle]

Shooting a gun off isn't necessarily going to put anyone in danger, but in a civilized society we accept that certain risky activities must be strictly controlled for the greater good.

 

[Boris Bajic]

I am a frequent speeder and have paid heavily in the past for my habit.

I am 300% in favour of speed cameras and have been since they appeared, despite being a part of the income stream that in part justifies their use.

I don't like the fact that their presence must be signposted, but accept that it is. It is a measure of how mentally dull we speeding motorists are that so many of us are still blitzed within a short distance of a warning sign that cameras are present.

Some of my friends say that cameras are dangerous because they make the driver concentrate on the speedometer when they should be concentrating on the road. This argument barely warrants the wry arching of an eyebrow.

Every road car I've driven since passing my test has had a great big speedometer on the dashboard with a needle (or LED) indicating current speed. The trick is to make sure that the indicated speed doesn't exceed the speed shown in the round signs by the roadside. It is not a difficult trick.

Before she was fully literate/numerate my daughter would say to my wife "The sign says a six and a zero and Daddy is doing an eight and a zero". If a three-year-old child can get that, what excuse did I have?

None.

 

[benb]

Don't get me wrong, if you get caught by an officer for speeding and they ask you to take a ticket, then you are banged to rights, but these drivers are experts, and if they feel you are driving in a way which endangers yourself and others, then that should be their call also.

A fixed camera doesn't give the operator any more information to the danger of that driver if they are tailgating, or talking on the mobile than a couple of still pictures taken a second apart showing the back of their head. They could be absolutely hammered, and be happy that there are not many police cars out there who might take the time to study what htey do.

In the majority of cases, speeding drivers are "driving in a way which endangers yourself and others"

Many drivers witter on about how they are the best driver ever, so it should be up to them what speed they drive at. It's just bollocks.

Why should we allow people the discretion to decide which laws apply to them? We'll be condoning RLJ next!!

 

[Linford]

In the majority of cases, speeding drivers are "driving in a way which endangers yourself and others"

Many drivers witter on about how they are the best driver ever, so it should be up to them what speed they drive at. It's just bollocks.

Why should we allow people the discretion to decide which laws apply to them? We'll be condoning RLJ next!!

Is that your opinion, that of a traffic police officer, or of a civilian operator who's job is to process the film, and issue the fines ?

 

[benb]

Is that your opinion, that of a traffic police officer, or of a civilian operator who's job is to process the film, and issue the fines ?

My opinion, but I would have thought it was self-evident.

 

[benb]

Yeh like them stupid yanks being allowed to turn right on a red light. Discretion. Common Sense and grey areas in America.... who'da thought it.

Well if you want to, you are free to lobby to have the laws changed.
I don't see how you can argue you should be free to interpret the laws as you wish.