Where does Froomes Power come from?!

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PK99

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I agree, especially with his elbows sticking out so much. And why does he spend so much time looking at the ground ?! Even Carlton Kirby ( Eurosport) has commented on it a couple of times.

Marginally lower wind resistance - according to the ITV4 commentators - ditto seated, consistent position when climbing. Aero dynamics don't make much different to mortals like us when climbing but at the speeds they are going the marginal differences can be the key difference.
 

oldroadman

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Marginally lower wind resistance - according to the ITV4 commentators - ditto seated, consistent position when climbing. Aero dynamics don't make much different to mortals like us when climbing but at the speeds they are going the marginal differences can be the key difference.
They do talk complete sphreoids at times. How much resistance at climbing speed...?
He has simply got a stunningly efficient and high capacity cardio-vascular system. Pulse at rest will be probably in the 30's or low 40's, lung capacity at least 5 litres, altitude work improves natural red cell count. Combine talent and training, throw in iron hard mentality, you have a quality rider.
Compare, old bloke me, pulse high 40's at rest, lungs still work OK but only 3.8/4 litres now, heamatocrit natural level 47 (the UCI "upper safe limit" is 50, when you get stopped racing for 14 days for "health reasons"). So CF will be well in advance of average humans. Plus he has a high cadence and ability to produce a superb change of speed in the mountains. My guess would be he looks down to check power output on the meter, keeping within threshold until very late on a stage when you can go into the red and not have to worry about recovery. That's for the rollers post race.
Mind he is not elegant on the bike, looks like a demented spider at times! Compare Quintana, very stylish, lovely pedal stroke, terrific power, and great poker face for a young rider.
 

Andy_R

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As a southerner can i just say. Gravy on chips is an abomination against any deity living or dead.
As a northerner, can I just say that as a southerner you know nothing about chips, gravy on chips, or abominable deities. Go and wave your heresy at the good folks of BikeRadar:laugh:

Oh, and BTW, Froome has arms like Mr Tickle
 

oldroadman

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As a northerner, can I just say that as a southerner you know nothing about chips, gravy on chips, or abominable deities. Go and wave your heresy at the good folks of BikeRadar:laugh:

Oh, and BTW, Froome has arms like Mr Tickle

The only thing to have on chips (when allowed for about 10 minutes off season!) is mayonnaise. The only place where chips are best is Belgium. Anything and anywhere alse is simply not at the same standard. ^_^
 

oldroadman

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[QUOTE 2559903, member: 259"]Lots of Belgians eat chips with piccalilli. I don't know what that's all about! xx([/quote]
They can get treatment....though I have tried that and it's not too bad. :banghead: When you stop...
 
Not really, there's nothing secret about this, this is basically how all elite endurance athletes body's work, rowers, cyclists etc basically anyone putting out high watts for an extended period of time (aerobic) is relying on an CV (cardiovascular) system that is far beyond the average person.

Olympic sprinters to give the opposite example are using pure anaerobic for a short time.


The question is where does Froome's power - over and above the rest - come from?
He must have an even greater tendency towards anaerobic than most and the fact that he was born and lived at altitude helps.
 


The composition of your muscle fibres, ratio between slow / fast twitch is genetically determined.
 

T.M.H.N.E.T

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The question is where does Froome's power - over and above the rest - come from?
Training perhaps?

He must have an even greater tendency towards anaerobic than most and the fact that he was born and lived at altitude helps.
You have no way of knowing this. Why would you assume it's the case anyway?

The composition of your muscle fibres, ratio between slow / fast twitch is genetically determined.
Most of us know the basics. How do you know enough about Chris Froome to determine what his genetic balance is?
 
Training perhaps?

You have no way of knowing this. Why would you assume it's the case anyway?

Most of us know the basics. How do you know enough about Chris Froome to determine what his genetic balance is?


I am assuming this as I doubt he is training in such a significantly harder, different or better manner than his competitors to be able to blitz attack them up a mountain with an incredible display of power. I can only conclude that it is a natural advantage, which he has fully made the most of with his training and dedication.
 

T.M.H.N.E.T

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I am assuming this as I doubt he is training in such a significantly harder, different or better manner than his competitors to be able to blitz attack them up a mountain with an incredible display of power. I can only conclude that it is a natural advantage, which he has fully made the most of with his training and dedication.
So you're saying his form isn't the result of training,but the result of what you assume is higher type2 % of fibre, and training?

I'm lost as to what exactly you are basing this all on.
 
So you're saying his form isn't the result of training,but the result of what you assume is higher type2 % of fibre, and training?


I said that his training has made the most of a natural advantage, that it is a combination of both of these factors, that it is not simply the result of training - that not everyone could do what he has done, if only they trained long enough, hard enough and smart enough. I am assuming that he has a genetic advantage in terms of his muscle composition, as everyone else on the Tour has trained just as hard as he has, yet he still has that substantial advantage. Training is vital, but it is not everything, some people's bodies are simply better equipped for this kind of competition than others and I am surmising that he has a particularly high slow:high twitch ratio.
 

smutchin

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I don't think his legs are that thin. His thighs are more muscular than some.

I was thinking exactly the same thing while watching him yesterday. It's just that he's so tall, his legs look very stretched out. Also, he doesn't have a gram of fat on his legs or bum. He also has very impressive glutes (worded carefully in a futile attempt to hide the fact I was looking closely at another man's arse).

Great self-discipline about what he allows in his body too - he had to really force himself to take a sip from that glass of champagne yesterday, just for the benefit of the camera, and seemed keen to get rid of it asap. And I'm pretty sure he didn't inhale that cigar. ^_^
 
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